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Round 2 Scenarios Feedback
Community Meetings and Feedback
Below are recordings from four virtual meetings and six in-person cluster based sessions for your review.
Virtual Community Meetings
March 23 @ 12pm
Questions
| 1 | Please have Dr. Campbell speak more clearly and more slowly. She is reading and it is too fast. |
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| 2 | The volume scene is very low for a person who is speaking. I can barely hear her. |
| 3 | What can we expect at the in person meetings. |
| 4 | What is the actual deficit that the county must pick up due to the lack of full, federal funding that results from Oak Grove being less than 100 off the target for capacity? |
| 5 | How could a huge amount of the feedback received by the district be about one elementary in particular but it remain on the closure list? How is that considering feedback? |
| 6 | I’d like to understand why the grade band options include PK-3 and 4-5 instead of PK-2 and 3-5. Since milestones start in 3rd grade, if we are going to move away from traditional grade bands, it seems like it’s more logical to have one elementary school building without end of year state testing and one elementary school building with state testing to minimize disruptions for the youngest students. |
| 7 | For the round 2 scenario page, I am not seeing the resources and info being shared in other languages (I am viewing the north cluster). Will this be provided in the typical DCSD translations for our stakeholders, with Spanish being the priority in our cluster? https://www.dekalbschoolsga.org/divisions/access-and-opportunity/student-assignment/sap/sap-survey |
| 7 | For the round 2 scenario page, I am not seeing the resources and info being shared in other languages (I am viewing the north cluster). Will this be provided in the typical DCSD translations for our stakeholders, with Spanish being the priority in our cluster? https://www.dekalbschoolsga.org/divisions/access-and-opportunity/student-assignment/sap/sap-survey |
| 8 | Since he’s talking about it specifically right now, what is the dollar amount of resources that we do not get from federal sources for Oak Grove? |
| 9 | What does HPM stand for in HPM Vice President? |
| 10 | There are three elementary schools in the Lakeside cluster which are not tucked deep in neighborhoods like Hawthorne. Why are you not considering smaller expansions at Henderson Mill Elementary School and Oakgrove Elementary School, as well as Briarlake - all of which are on roads that are thoroughfares and not neighborhood streets? Why have you not considered moving Warren Technical School and placing an expanded elementary school there, on this large site which is on a large, divided major thoroughfare? |
| 10 | There are three elementary schools in the Lakeside cluster which are not tucked deep in neighborhoods like Hawthorne. Why are you not considering smaller expansions at Henderson Mill Elementary School and Oakgrove Elementary School, as well as Briarlake - all of which are on roads that are thoroughfares and not neighborhood streets? Why have you not considered moving Warren Technical School and placing an expanded elementary school there, on this large site which is on a large, divided major thoroughfare? |
| 11 | Can you speak more on what long-term, medium-term, and short-term means in number of years on the narrative table? |
| 12 | When will we see the scenario crosswalked with the E-Splost timeline so that we can better understand the implementation plan? |
| 13 | Can you please identify the 11 major capital projects that you mentioned, and clarify as to whether these projects are in Scenario 2? Thank you. |
| 14 | Based on the current scenario, over 500 students from closed schools will be shifted to Briarlake. What is the plan for the campus? Its current capacity is under 450, so the school will have to double in size. How will you redistrict enough students to avoid building a school that is oversized for the campus lot? How will that kind of redistricting not result in our neighborhoods being divided in a way where some people will literally live on a street with an elementary but have to pass it? |
| 15 | Please add Matthew Scott as a panelist |
| 16 | At some point Mr. Richter should explain E-SPLOST, that it has to be approved by voters this November. |
| 17 | Why have impact studies not been done on these potential closures and expansions regarding traffic, property values, and the socio-emotional health of the students? |
| 18 | Are we meant to be seeing slides? |
| 19 | Can a representative please point us to documentation from the federal level that indicates a school must be a certain capacity for federal funding? |
| 20 | Would you expand the schools for capacity expansion before closing a nearby school that would increase the student numbers? Specifically expanding Chesnut and hightower before closing Kingsley? |
| 21 | Why would a school that cannot be closed or expanded upon until ESPLOST in 2031 is even looked at (and may not even be part of that), be part of the conversation we are having right now? How can a school operate- attract & retain teachers and students- on a maybe/potential 6-year closure list? That is harmful to 1/2 a generation of students. |
| 22 | When will budget details be available by school (expansions, new builds, etc), and what does "short, medium, and long-term" on planned changes mean in terms of years? |
| 23 | Can you pls add details about the line from Ashford Park to John Lewis? What students would that be? |
| 24 | Lakeside cluster had 4 of top 5 Round 1 survey responses, how were these responses in incorporated into Round 2? Please be specific. Nothing changed from Round 1 to Round 2 in Lakeside cluster - this leads me to believe that no feedback was substantively incorporated into SAP process from the Lakeside cluster. How can you say that feedback is being incorporated with a straight face? |
| 25 | Will these slides be available? Since we missed the first few. He said something about a size requirement for elementary, what was it? |
| 26 | Question about planned capacity: What capacity % will expansion projects be designed to acheive, and does this include the additional students that will need to attend due to closures? Specifically, the heat maps show Hightower and Chesnut ES at 134% capacity without the additional 600 students needing to attend from the closure of Vanderlin and Kingsley. Also, I am concerned that if the projections are wrong with no 'spare capacity' that the opportunty to ease overcrowding will be missed and it would be another decade or more before it is fixed again. |
| 27 | If Vanderlyn elementary is slated to close to be re-purposed to be sued for high school expansion, why does Dunwoody High school not have any plans to be expanded? |
| 28 | How about using Nancy Creek ES to temporarily house Ashford Park ES students while rebuilding APES? The Comprehensive Master Plan from ~2020 called for a complete rebuild of APES by 2028. |
| 29 | Is community engagement being tracked against specific targets? |
| 30 | What does that mean that Dunwoody wouldn't be preserved at 125% utilization? Does Hightower move out? |
| 31 | How can District afford these proposed improvements? I think it’s interesting that there’s a lack of detail surrounding costs of these proposed projects. My estimate is it’s somewhere between $1B-$2B. DCSD has not shown any financial numbers justifying that this plan saves $ relative to the existing status quo. |
| 32 | There’s an undeniable targeting occurring of high performing schools. Why is that? Looking specifically at Oak Grove and Briarlake, why was Briarlake chosen for expansion when their building scores are lower? There’s been admittedly no consideration given to traffic. What was the factor that made them the shill for expansion and not OG? |
| 33 | Or would there be something different proposed? |
| 34 | Dekalb county owns a school building on Heritage Drive near Lakeside highschool. It has been closed for a year and NO maintenance has been performed, including garbage pick up for the playground. Neighbors are having to take the garbage to their personal receptables because there is now a rat infestation. If you can’t maintain one empty school – how are you going to maintain 26 school closures? |
| 35 | What is DAA and DSA? |
| 36 | You mentioned there will be seats opening up at Dunwoody High school, how will those seats be freed up? |
| 37 | Druid hills has not been funded. It requires approval of the next ESPLOST |
| 38 | Can you speak more to why you are planning to split Ashford park elementary into two different clusters? Moving some to John Lewis |
| 39 | Go back to what you said about 900 seat elementary school, is that the goal? To create nodes of 900 seat elementary schools by closing the others? |
| 40 | I notice that Peachtree and Chamblee Middle schools have no changes although their utilization is over capacity and projected to be even more so down the road through your projections. Why are area 1 middle schools not being addressed? |
| 41 | Have any traffic pattern or community impact studies been done? With Lakeside high school located closely to Sagamore, Oak Grove, and Briarlake Elementaries, traffic management is a top priority. Briarlake elementary cannot handle a significant increase in traffic due to its location on Lavista and Briarlake. As a resident of Briarlake Road, traffic is already very disruptive in the morning and afternoons to the neighborhood. This traffic already impacts students being able to get to school and start on time (as well as parents being able to pick up and drop off). |
| 42 | What studies have been done that show that this process working for Dr Horton’s former system of 8000 will work for 90,000 students? |
| 43 | What is the solution for a Gifted Magnet on the North end of the district if Kittredge moves south? It's not equitable to only have Gifted magnet schools in the southern part of the district. |
| 44 | What is the exact intention of the red arrow going from Ashford Park to John Lewis? Who would be transferred to John Lewis and when? This would not be keeping our community together and would take some kids out of the Chamblee cluster. I understand that that’s a long-term solution, but it needs to be addressed immediately since it goes against some of the community’s immediate concerns even if it’s long term. |
| 45 | For Montgomery Elementary, it appears it is suggested that PreK-3rd would move to Nancy Creek - when would this happen? I am hearing 3-5 years for an addition to MES so then why would kids need to move in 27-28? |
| 46 | For Ashford Park, Tracy mentioned the scenario 2 grade band plan “keeps AP together & preserves the feeder pattern”. How is this the case when a red arrow also indicates some will be pulled into John Lewis? When will the John Lewis shift occur? |
| 47 | Your data tool shows Smoke Rise is at capacity and will continue to be, with no expansion plans. How could we send students from Livsey and Brockett there? You don't show any movement away from Smoke Rise. |
| 48 | What changes are being proposed for the Lakeside Cluster as far as boundaries? |
| 49 | What time would a 4-5 school start since it can't start at the same time as other grade bands b/c there would be no way for parents to do dropoffs in locations 20 minutes apart at the same time. |
| 50 | How were Freedom MS, Redan MS, Salem MS, and Columbia MS determined to be the only adequate facilities as options for Kittredge Magnet? This would deprive many students who live in northern parts of the district from attending. |
| 51 | What type of questions should be have prepared? |
| 52 | Could you please define an "Early Learning Center"? |
| 53 | Are additional magnets and programs up for discussion? Similarly, for any child who gets changed in cluster school, could the district consider increasing opportunities for magnet schools? |
| 54 | For students currently enrolled at McNair DLA, where would they attend school if it is closed or repurposed? |
| 55 | What factors dictate whether a school is not sufficient for expansion? Is it acreage? Is there a specific footprint that you are trying to be able to layout |
| 56 | What is the arrow from ashford park to John Lewis? It has not been addressed in any overview yet and seems like it could represent a potential break in cluster / community for some students. |
| 57 | What is the cost impact of deciding to keep all HS clusters? Shouldn't the public know about that tradeoff? If the "preservation" argument holds here, why shouldn't the "preservation" argument hold for all of the small, well-utilized ES that are on the closure list? |
| 58 | For the Lakeside cluster, why are our schools being consolidated for "seats" when the scenario 2 material explicity says our elementaries are well-utilized? What evidence supports the verbally provided goal of "4 teachers per grade"? Is this associated with increased student performance? |
| 59 | Are there suggested locations for the more adequate facility for Wadsworth Magnet? Would it take over one of the schools listed as being repurposed? |
| 60 | Since Kitteredge and other magnet schools have been opend up to those who don't fit the "gifted definition" (75% on map vs 95% in the past). Leaving gifted children >100 on the waitlist. What is being done to increase the amount of choices for those who are gifted to get focused learning? Teachers are focused on improving scores which means gifted kids get left in the lurch. |
| 61 | Considering the amount of feedback that was provided from the Lakeside cluster- why was there no changes made from scenario 1 to 2 |
| 62 | For KMS - while better faciliates is important - it seems counterproductive to move the the program further away from its current site (citing moving to buildings like Freedom MS). Feedback cited more demand and need on the northside so why move it further away? That seems opposite of providing equity and access to the program. |
| 63 | SAP Round 1 had a net negative sentiment of 25%. How can you justify that this planning process move forward with such overwhelming negative sentiment? |
| 64 | I hear that you are attempting to preserve high school clusters. Can you address the inference that both the Evansdale and Pleasantdale communities will be removed from the Lakeside cluster? I'm asking here since Mr. Richter has specifically mentioned preserving high school clusters. |
| 65 | Has any consideration been given to leaving the North area schools in tact until expansion projects are completed? The mental health implications for children are very real here. Moving a child out of their home school for just 5th grade in 2027-28 has significant consequences. Why not wait? What's the rush? |
| 66 | Since transportation/traffic impact, staff impact, specific expansion proposals, specific funding identification, student impact/outcomes and community impact were not considered in Phase 1 and Phase 2, when WILL it be considered? Schools are more than just buildings. |
| 67 | I'm disppointed to see that scenario 2 includes plans to split elementary students (especially from high-performing schools) into several new locations. This has a very negative impact and does not ensure that high performance continues at the new school. Will options to move student populations together be considered? |
| 68 | how many rounds beyond round 2 scenarios are there? |
| 69 | Has 6-12 campuses already been determined? I thought that was up for discussion, but according to this presentation, it appears to be a done deal. I strongly disagree with this as there is too much difference in more than just age with 6th graders through 12th graders. |
| 70 | The scenarios for Central elementary schools were not addressed? I think it was skipped |
| 71 | What is the cost of Capital Projects required to implement Scenario 1 vs the cost of Capital Projects required to implement Scenario 2? |
| 72 | What about the Lakeside cluster?? |
| 73 | Will there be communication in future phases about expected impacts/outcomes/challenges for proposed scenarios? As well as potential responses? |
| 74 | Where is Lakeside cluster overview? I thought this was an all clusters meeting? |
| 75 | Atlanta Public Schools recently went through a redistricting, and I’m aware that many parents old children that were redistricted out of high performing schools moved out of the district or went private. Have you gotten their numbers for how enrollment changed post-redistricting and run an analysis as to how that might look/affect enrollments in DeKalb? This seems particularly of interest here since HPM is consultant on both projects. |
| 76 | Pre-K is required by law in Georgia. Hundreds of children are waitlisted for Pre-K in the elementary schools and the state will pay private accredited daycares to pay for pre-K for those children. This is funding that not go to Dekalb county Board of Education. Why isn't Dekalb County Board of Education addressing this first, so all children have the ability to experience Pre-K in an actual elemnetary school? |
| 77 | For school(s) that are proposed to serve grades 6-12, how is DCSD going to keep the younger kids (e.g,. 6th graders aged 10-11 years) safe on buses, if there are older high schoolers on board? What will the school hours be? Will they be different or the same for the grades 6-8 vs. grades 9-12 years? |
| 78 | Ashford Park has an arrow to John Lewis Elementary but also to Montgomery, Nancy creek, and Huntley--does that mean that you will be breaking up the AP attendance zone to all those school clusters? The John Lewis arrow wasn't addressed in the explanations posted; only mentioned breaking up to montgomery, Huntley Hills and Nancy Creek. Also, would all of this be dependent on 2029 opening of Sequoyah HS or would some of these changes happen prior to that timefram |
| 79 | Why is the Round 2 survey due date the weekend following spring break? Why not extend the timeline so more people can participate in the survey? |
| 80 | In areas like the Chamblee cluster, where the issue is overcrowding instead of under-enrollment, why is their a proposal to close ANY school in that area? Won't that just exacerbate the overcrowding issue? |
| 81 | What if people are unable to make their specific cluster meeting? |
| 82 | *why is there |
| 83 | We blew by the lack of middle school for Cross Keys and changing the elementary schools top k-8? Thats why boundaries are so important for Ashford Park right now because it hasnt been discussed. |
| 84 | Has a traffic pattern study been completed? If not, when can we expect results from this study to be shared with the community? |
| 85 | If the proposed changes are staged for the long-term, does the plan change if enrollment were to increase across the district within the 8 year span? |
| 86 | For specialty schools, could DCSD please consider accessibility for students across the district? This is very important. |
| 87 | Can we go back? |
| 88 | If closing Vanderyln in the next 2-3 years is still on the table, when will we see the new zoning? |
| 89 | What documentation can HPM provide that explains the concept of federal funding being tied to capacity? |
| 90 | Have the language immersion programs been discussed and can proposed new locations be shared? |
| 91 | Can Tracy please show the slide breakdown where Oak Grove Elementary, Sagamore Hills, Briarlake, etc. are discussed? Or is that available on this site? |
| 92 | Why are the short term moves for Ashford Park contingent on Dresden opening if it is not a school any kids will move to. Who is zoned for Dresden? |
| 93 | At Lakeside high school tonight we have been told that there are 20 rooms available, each room accomodating 30 individuals. Will there be board of education staff in each of the rooms? Why isn't there an ability for everyone to be in one location? |
| 94 | None of the expansion sites in the Lakeside area meet state acreage guidelines (5 acres per 100 students). The FCA numbers are wrong on all the schools and there are no studies done on viablity of expansion. When would all this be completed for the community to properly evaluate scenario 2? |
| 95 | What consideration, if any, was given to elementary schools that have programs that are unique to the district, for example Midvale Elementary's IB program and Evansdale Elementary's Dual-Language Immersion? Those programs would be lost in the current scenario. |
| 96 | it seems as if schools on the south side are disproportionately affected more. Was that an oversight or strategically planned |
| 97 | Are the proposed conversion schools set in stone, or do they still need to be voted on? More particularly, Champion Theme Middle School. I haven’t seen any updates on this school in scenario two, so I’d like more insight on this. |
| 98 | Why did Tracy Richter not give an overview of Lakeside cluster? I don’t need a reference to a website. |
| 99 | What is the plan for school choice? Would that program continue? What about kids that are currently attending another school through school choice that is not a program school? |
| 100 | Thanks, but is there a slide I missed in this presentation? Will these slides or this recording be available on the SAP site? |
| 101 | The information on the link is confusing, that's why I personally joined the call. I would appreciate for someone to review the information for this cluster for clarity. |
| 102 | Can you comment on the seemingly very real possibility that these changes are going to perpetuate declining enrollment as families move either out of DeKalb or to private school? |
| 103 | Also, what are the specific goal metrics for this SAP initiative? For example, is there a particular dollar amount that DCSD wants to save, or average number of students per building? Just trying to gauge what the end game is, since obviously there are MANY ways to cut and potentially save money. Is there a metric DCSD is trying to reach, and once that goal is reached, can the county stop making additional changes that may do more harm than good to particular communities? |
| 104 | In the Round 2 Scenario for Ashford Park Elementary ("APES"), the "Original Scenario 1 Action" states, among other reasons, that APES "cannot be expanded to meet future needs. What is the data to support that APES cannot physically be expanded? Is it cost? Is it available land? Has any thought been given to expanding either upwards (i.e. build 2 story buildings link Dresden Elementary) or expanding where the current modulars currently sit? Can you please provide specific data instead of blanket statements? |
| 105 | Can you summarize the # of closures, # of expansions, and # of conversions (ES-->MS, MS-->ES, HS/MS-->6-12 please? Scenario 1 had this summarized and I did not see this summary for Scenario 2. Thank you. |
| 106 | Can you send link to the main SAP website here? |
| 107 | Will the exact same info be presented at the other virtual sessions? |
| 108 | Why no comment on Oak Grove? It was mentioned the most often (by a wide margin) in the prior survey. Can you speak to why it is included in the closure list despite being widely sought after and well utilized? |
| 109 | How will Round 2 feedback be documented in the community meetings? Who will be taking notes and documenting feedback? I’ve noticed that many of the Zoom questions for Round 1 Zoom were not published. |
| 110 | Turning Montgomery temporarily into a 4-5 school for an undetermined amount of time is incredibly inconvenient for people currently assigned to Huntley Hills or Ashford Park. We could easily then have 3 drop offs to manage with our children and now a long commute to get to Montgomery in rush hour traffic. Why is this being proposed before any money has actually been earmarked for the Montgomery expansion? |
| 111 | Is it true that we can only answer the survey once? If we have new ideas or questions after we submit the survey, where can we submit those? Thank you. |
| 112 | What will happen to the DLI programs as both the German and French schools are set for closure. While a Spanish DLI school remains open but it does not currently offer Spanish DLI. |
| 113 | If the proposed changes are staged for the long-term, does the plan change if enrollment were to increase across the district within the 8 year span? |
| 114 | If minimizing high school cluster moves is a goal, why is it being proposed to split Evansdale Elementary into two high school clusters, neither of which is its current cluster (Lakeside)? |
| 115 | I have seen a table that lays out savings (low, medium, high) for elementary, middle, and high schools. Can you direct us there? |
| 116 | How does this process justify recommending closure of a school that ranks #1 in its cluster, scores 16 points above the district average on CCRPI, and is among the top 3% of elementary schools statewide - when academic outcomes are not explicitly included in the closure criteria? |
| 117 | Sorry about the typos in my first question. Let me fix the typos so that my questions come across more clearly: In the Round 2 Scenario for Ashford Park Elementary ("APES"), the "Original Scenario 1 Action" states, among other reasons, that APES "cannot be expanded to meet future needs." What is the data to support that APES cannot physically be expanded? Is it cost? Is it available land? Has any thought been given to expanding either upwards (i.e. build 2 story buildings like Dresden Elementary) or expanding where the current modulars currently sit? Can you please provide specific data instead of blanket statements? |
| 118 | Will DCSD prioritize retaining the Title 1 status of current schools that are set to expand? |
| 119 | How a correctly integrated educational system for each grade will be programmed in every school. |
| 120 | Is there a list of work orders and updates that all our elementary schools need at this time so we can see which buildings need the most work? We know there are adequacy scores but are there details as to what buildings specifically already have had done, making them more adequate versus the ones that are slated for closure that may need more work to keep them running smoothly and maintained at their current ages for years to come? |
| 121 | Can you advise the estimated or ideal slack the County would prefer? Certainly, it would not make sense to eliminate all extra capacity since forecasts can be flawed and population changes / births can be unpredictable? |
| 122 | We have a petition that hundreds of parents and Dekalb County residents have signed who are against the Hawthorne and Briarlake elementary expansion. Who should we provide this too so our voices are heard. |
| 123 | Can you better explain the North clusters map in regards to ashford park? The verbiage on the map and related materials and the arrows do not communicate the same message? Is the future consideration to have students from AP attend Montgomery, Nancy creek, Huntley hills and John Lewis? |
| 124 | When looking at possible facility changes for programs such as Kittredge, it looks like geography wasn't part of the consideration at all. There is another magnet program that is also considering movement. How will geography and current student body makeup be considered when looking at facilities for those schools? Moving them 30 minutes away would be a significant change. |
| 125 | Since one of the primary stated goals is to better utilize facilities, what studies have been conducted in consideration of people relocating due to changes causing imbalances in utilization all over again? Of course this assumes the means to relocate. |
| 126 | How is Dekalb going to handle the increased load of students needing buses? As there is already a shortage of drivers and buses while kids will no longer be within walking distance. |
| 127 | I am curious if bigger schools are built (900 seat elementary), does this cause those schools to be underutilized? I understand the vision to create larger schools as buildings are rebuilt to serve future needs, but is this a self fulfilling prophecy or spriral to have underutilized buildings? |
| 128 | When specifically, for an elementary school slated for closure, will we find out both where students will end up and when they will be impacted? |
| 129 | If 450 is the minimum capacity and a school is still over that, why would you disrupt a high performing school just to save a few dollars? Oak Grove has all of the mentioned services funded already. |
| 130 | You are moving the goalposts on this process--Phase 1 started with you talking about building utilization and now you are shifting to building capacity. When Oak Grove parents pointed out that your utilization numbers were wrong, our concerns were dismissed. Stop acting like you want our input, you're changing the goals and the narrative to fit what you have already decided. |
| 131 | Data suggests after 750, elementary schools become more expensive. Has the team reviewed these analyses specific to DeKalb County? Cost avoidance is a key priority so overbuilding the building size when it cost even more to operate (diminishing returns) does not make any sense. Please explain. |
| 132 | Have you considered transportation and traffic problems caused by the proposed changes? |
| 133 | There were no information about plans for Kittredge Magnet School in SAP round 1. The second round of SAP scenarios mentions Kittredge. It seems that all proposed new sites for KMS are located very far away from current KMS location and even further away from Chamblee middle and Chamblee high schools. For example,based on Google Maps, the distance between Chamblee Middle School and Freedom middle school is 16 mi ; between CMS and Redan Middle School is 20 mi; CMS and Salem middle school is 23 mi; CMS and Columbia middle school is 20 mi. Furthermore, all suggested new sites are all very close to Wadsworth Magnet School ( the distance between Columbia middle school and Wadsworth is only 4 miles and the rest of proposed locations are 6-8 miles away from Wadsworth). Placing two magnet schools so close to each other will not provide adequate access to the magnet programs throughout the District . Such programs should be located in different parts of the District to ensure that kids throughout the entire District |
| 134 | I know you said boundaries will be discussed later to another question, but AGAIN, the fact that JLE is being proposed as a K-8 which isnt the district standard and there is a line from Ashford Park to JLE we want to know what is happening. |
| 135 | Please consider other scenarios that place KMS closer to Chamblee cluster. This also ensures that German language track is preserved. |
| 136 | What are the estimated operational and maintenance cost savings of consolidating Cedar Grove and Oakview elementary schools and moving Cedar Grove Middle School to a facility that will need expansions or major upgrades to accommodate the state-required curriculum? |
| 137 | Some of the buildings stated for closure have no future use listed for them. What is the plan for utilization of these buildings/and or lots. Lots remain empty in Chamblee Dunwoody at 285 and on North Druid Hills across from Target. What happens to empty schools in the middle of neighborhoods? Who is exploring this? Also, has the impact of traffic patterns been taken into account on deciding which schools will be closed and which will be expanded? |
| 138 | Again, as tax payers, we already pay the highest tax rate in our area. Why would you disrupt a high performing school to save? |
| 139 | has the voucher program had an impact on school size matters? it seems like there are schools that are more sort after and people leave the zooned schools for "better schools" |
| 140 | Many of the larger schools seem to be the ones underenrolled. Has the committee considered that parents do not want larger schools and they are not working well for students, thus resulting in families leaving the district? |
| 141 | Can you share building goals? Who developed them? |
| 142 | Why are we not looking at having buildings with multiple stories when the lot size is not deemed large enough |
| 143 | What about programs at specific schools? If you close Evansdale, what happens to the French Immersion Program now that the building that housed it is closed? |
| 144 | If the district’s goals of improving utilization, reducing costs, and maintaining strong academic outcomes conflict, which objective takes priority and how is that decision made? |
| 145 | What does it actually mean to convert Bob Mathis to an ELC like Coralwood |
| 146 | Magnet programs should be located in different parts of the District to ensure that kids throughout the entire District have access to such programs. The proposed new locations are quite unexpected considering that DCSD representatives mentioned in the past that it is very important to ensure an even coverage of program offerings throughout the district. Please consider other scenarios that place KMS closer to Chamblee cluster. This also ensures that German language track is preserved. |
| 147 | Have you also looked at home addresses of students? We already live 3 miles from our school, so in addition to splitting our sweet school community, I'm concerned about distance to our local elementary school if our school closes and we move to a different school |
| 148 | You are setting goals but you aren't taking into account the impact of closures and expansions to these neighborhoods. You aren't collecting the data on impact by conducting impact studies o nhow these changes will affect local traffic, property values, and the socio-emotional health of students. You need to do that work. |
| 149 | Midvale is a potential closure. Midvale is also an IB school, will an IB program open at one of elementary schools that remains open? |
| 150 | Where are the building condition reports again? |
| 151 | I haven't heard anything from the SAP process that demonstrates that larger elementary schools are better or at least neutral for student outcomes. What evidence can you provide to support this foundational proposition that the entire SAP seems predicated upon? |
| 152 | Are you considering the fact that, if you disrupt high-functioning schools, parents will send their kids to private or charter schools, which will exacerbate the enrollement or budget issue? |
| 153 | This is a terrible explanation. You can’t address this issue without addressing the incredibly racist movements of the district in the past to keep black people in South DeKalb by over building. Correcting this in an equitable way is not closing high performing schools in the north |
| 154 | According to the 2025 enrollment report, only 4 of the schools over 750 are enrolled at the target enrollment, compared to the small schools which are popular in school choice, as well as the Promise Vouchers which are being used at microschools. Is the 600 goal set by the board or Superintendent Sauce and officially signed off on? Most of the schools you mentioned in Lakeside have 450 K-5 and already fully programmed. |
| 155 | As a facilities and capital planning consultant, how do you justify presenting closure recommendations to a Board of Education without incorporating academic performance or student outcomes - factors that are central to the Board’s statutory responsibility for educational quality? |
| 156 | Please make the small groups be assigned by elementary school at the in person meetings so that the discussions be specific to our elementary. |
| 157 | Doesn’t equity necessitate different conversations in different places? The “it’s hard to go into different places with school capacity convo” whining just reeks of Same Stuff Different Day. |
| 158 | How is student success in terms of school size playing into this? What is the research that larger schools provide better student success - not only test scores, but mental and emotional well-being? Also, considering our disadvantaged populations - special needs, english learners? How are we ensuring larger school models serve these populations? |
| 159 | Matt Sachs: You answered a question with this response: "The current site at Ashford Park (7 acres) is restrictive to building an elementary school of 600 or larger capacity." What is the basis for saying that the size is restrictive? Restrictive in what sense? |
| 160 | When determining current capacity: Are some schools that are determined to be very below capacity turning away students from open enrolement / public transfers requests? If not, then that makes me feel better about the capacity estimate. If they are turning students away, then is the determined capicity being re-examined? |
| 161 | Can you please provide clarification for those of us in Evansdale who have historically been a feeder for Lakeside being listed in Phase 2 in 3 different clusters (i.e., Lakeside, Tucker, and Sequoyah)? |
| 162 | The board should represent its constituents and act in the best interest of all students in the district. I understand that one school should not be forcing decisions. However, I have attended sessions across the district and the resounding feedback from all communities and parents is to follow a process that is driven by the community and focused on student outcomes and excellence. Will the board listen to this feedback or continue a process that is buildings first-focused, which is against the majority of constituent feedback? |
| 163 | Peachtree Middle School is listed as no change, but is projected to be at 113% in 2030. Is there a plan in place to deal with that high utilization? |
| 164 | Has HPM committed to not bidding for or benefiting financially from any construction work resulting from the SAP to alleviate conflict of interest concerns? |
| 165 | What is the plan for the Oak Grove Elementary school building if closed and not converted to an early education grade band school? |
| 166 | Has the district surveyed to see the reasons families have left and tried to rectify to retain and possibly attract? Anecdotally, one reason from families we know is for support for learning differences, such as dyslexia. There is an opportunity in this sap process to open remediation school/s, similar to NYC, who opened the first public school for dyslexia. |
| 167 | Your data tool shows Smoke Rise is at capacity and will continue to be, with no expansion plans. How could we send students from Livsey and Brockett there? You don't show any movement away from Smoke Rise. |
| 168 | What if more families leave Dekalb because of this plan? |
| 169 | What is the impact of the county's buildings outside of schools? Which buildings would close for that, and how many central office positions would be eliminated during this process? |
| 170 | Can you help us reconcile the concept of "students are our primary focus" with "buildings first"? |
| 171 | Can Dekalb realize their middle and high schools are the problem and leave the thriving elementary schools alone? People move here for the great elementary and leave when they realize Dekalb upper level isn’t good enough. Fix the problems at hand and you’ll stop losing students and having empty seats. |
| 172 | Having had one or more students in DCSD schools for nearly 20 years, I am skeptical of DCSD's capacity to manage this much change, even over 6-8 years. Can DCSD please consider prioritizing one or more pilot projects? Further, can DCSD fix existing hazards? Chamblee Middle School has a field that is needed for PE and sports; that field has hazards and students have been injured (e.g., concussions, broken bones, severe abrasions) on that field. Parents can't even get action taken on this existing field. It is hard to imagine DCSD pulling off these larger projects. Also, part of the reasons that the field is so hazardous is that it was placed on a debris field when the "new" Chamblee Middle building was constructed 20 years ago. Fix this hazardous field and then maybe we can believe that DCSD can get something else done. |
| 173 | How can the Public trust the district with ESPLOST funds when we’ve already pre-spent the one we’ll vote on in November due to mismanagement of funds? |
| 174 | Why was Henderson Mill renovated last summer with SPLOST money if it’s being tagged to be closed? |
| 175 | How many students are you anticipating moving to a different district or going to private school once your new boundaries are communicated. |
| 176 | What does the district view as its function it not to fill in gaps where state funding falls though? Is this not why our taxes are already through the roof? |
| 177 | BUILD TRUST BEFORE YOU BUILD BUILDINGS. |
| 178 | Has there been any thought to bus transportation where students might have longer commutes due to these changes....buses break down daily now with students missing instructional time. |
| 179 | Can you help us understand the discrepancy between the minimum size Mr. Williams is discussing with the proposals for 900+ students? |
| 180 | If all elementaries were at the ideal size, then what would DCSD do with the funds it currently uses to subsidize these small schools? How about a commitment to smaller class sizes? |
| 181 | Will the current detailed budget versus a scenario-based budget (that incorporates these suggested changes) be shared so that we the tax payers can see the difference? I want to see real numbers. |
| 182 | Please address that the industry standard for elementary size is 500-750 optimally. 450 is not small considering Dekalb used to have K-7th that were only 450 students. You really need to explain this 900 number to the audience. We don't agree. To a small student, 450 is already a very large school. |
| 183 | Why is 7+ acres of land at Ashford Park Elementary considered inadequate for expansion? We've seen the wonderful expansion that has happened at Dresden Elementary school, which seems to have significantly less land than Ashford Park. Please explain. |
| 184 | Closing an entire cluster of elementary schools in one of the largest sized clusters where the majority of families fall way below poverty level and lack transportation, will be devastating and impact the children’s access to education. How will you be addressing this? |
| 185 | Ashford Park is increasing by 17.8% where the study says it will decrease by 14.8%. With that incorrect information the scenario says it is going to close down and then expand other schools with lower adequacy scores. The claim was a smaller campus but there are tons of examples where it is possible to expand on smaller amount of land. This plan is MORE expensive than just expanding Ashford Park elementary school. Can you explain the details behind the rationale? |
| 186 | How was a school picked for expansion without city planning taken into account? |
| 187 | Where can we see the presentation from this meeting? |
| 188 | I haven't heard any rationale related to whole-child health which is an expense worth paying for. Meeting the goal of efficiency may come at the cost of better physical/emotional well-being that comes from being able to walk to school instead of sitting in a car, having students know all of the staff, etc. |
| 189 | Why would we look to making HH, AP, and Nancy Creek PreK -3 in the short term if the expansion would take 5-6 years. Would all the MES kids be the ones to go to Nancy Creek while the expansion happens? If so, why does it just say 4-5/ If not, where would 4-5 go? |
| 190 | Will educators and supporting staff have to reapply for jobs due to school closures? |
| 191 | You mention working on a plan for teachers to follow the students. What about the other staff member affected where there is typically just one or two per school like nurses, librarians, music teachers, janitorial staff, cafeteria workers, counselor, art teachers, etc? |
| 192 | Is the slide deck used at the press conference and by Mr. Richter today available as a stand-alone pdf? I haven't been able to find it. Thank you. |
| 193 | Found it - Cost Avoidance under Data and Related Resources |
| 194 | If you expand Hawthorne Elementary School to 900 students, and we assume about 30% of the students have parents drive to drop them off and pick them up. That is 270 cars driving in a neighborhood. Is the massive impact of this to traffic and housing prices on the streets that lead to the school being considered? |
| 195 | Why are these discussions being held prior to formation of new Sequoyah HS cluster and its cascading impacts? |
| 196 | How to prevent a school from closing, or—if it does close—ensure that it does not negatively affect the students |
| 197 | Why is there an RFP out for bond council if this can be funded through ESPLOST? |
| 198 | What happens if ESPLOST doesnt get passed? |
| 199 | What is the contingency plan if ESPLOST is not voted in? |
| 200 | What school will absorb the students from possible closures of Browns Mill and Fairington Elementary Schools? |
| 201 | When asking questions live, can you read the questions as is instead of riffing off them? Key points are getting skipped and the answers are not addressing everything. |
| 202 | How much money will DCSD lose if Vanderlyn families move out of the county, home values decrease, school taxes paid decrease? |
| 203 | My child's elementary school has had the same rotten window frame since my oldest entered the system 13 years ago. What guarantee would the county offer to actually maintain buildings if there are less? |
| 204 | If you’re acknowledging that it’s difficult to apply a single threshold consistently because schools operate under different conditions, why is the solution a countywide standard rather than a community‑by‑community evaluation that accounts for those differences? |
| 205 | Even if Vanderlyn is refitted to become appropriate for High School use, what is the solution for the over crowding at Peachtree Middle? |
| 206 | What building would the French Immersion be moved? I’d like to know about the specific facility that would house the program |
| 207 | Can you speak to why we are not hearing from district employees on what is happening to OUR district instead of this company. |
| 208 | I am noting a narrative shift from being a story about reducing empty seats to one about small schools not being acceptable. Schools in the Lakeside cluster are well-utilized to capacity and the projections for these small schools have been proven incorrect for 2026. Will you please provide the reference to state legislation that indicates schools must be have at least 450 students to receive full funding levels? |
| 209 | Will there be an opportuntiies for parents to provide feedback on boundaries before final decisions are made? There are still many unanswered questions about how this plan will impact specific students and families based on this feedback. |
| 210 | Our board rep had suggested that some in the lakeside cluster zoned for OGE will be redistricted to Dresden. Would students continue on the high school in there cluster? |
| 211 | Why would you close an over-capacity school with obvious demand like Ashford Park, especially when displacement costs more than expansion, and when the forecast used to justify that decision appears to be wrong? |
| 212 | We’re building assessment data gathered after completion of 2025 ESPLOST projects. For example, McLendon is closing and has low building rating but in 2025 had new HVAC, new roof and updated playground. |
| 213 | Hawthorne elementary is a neighborhood school - where any expansion will negatively impact the residents in that community. Have the individuals working on this driven through that neighborhood to see the current traffic during school drop off and pick up? It will also negatively impact the safety of the children who walk and bike to school with significantly more cars driving through that neighborhood where there are no sidewalks. Has that been considered? |
| 214 | Why are we presenting potential buildings for Kittredge in an area that is being served by theme schools, charter schools and other magnet schools? Data shows that there is increased need and expansions for magnet in the northern area. Both Kittredge in its current location and also at its Nancy Creek location had high demand. Please explain the reasoning behind moving it to a location that is served by other programs? |
| 215 | Sorry, but adding arrows that just show where the closest schools are to a closure candidate doesn't help much. Do those schools have capacity? Parents already know where the closest schools are. |
| 216 | So, HPM doesn’t really have the answers, they’re just hoping they can land on one eventually. |
| 217 | Boundaries and schools also effect property values which is a concern for many. |
| 218 | Will the building the French Immersion Program is being moved to have capacity to expand the size of the program? Now there are 2 classes per grade, will the new building have capacity for 4,6 or more? |
| 219 | When is this whole process supposed to be finalized? Including all elements such as potential special programs moving and redistricting? |
| 220 | For schools that are proposed to close and a nearby ES will require expansion, AND still do not have an approved security visible, will security vestibule proceed to keep student safe in the short term. |
| 221 | How can a plan be advanced when we know DCSD has interim supt and 3 board members’ terms are ending? This entire plan should be paused until new leadership is in place. |
| 222 | It would be helpful to see projected costs for building out additional capacity at the various receiving schools especially when this cost could be viewed as unnecessary; it is adding space that already exists at the facilities you suggest close. It seems like an enormous expense and disruption to our neighborhoods. |
| 223 | I see that Tracy Richter is with HPM, a commecial construction company. Is it standard to bring a company (who will likely be awarded construction contacts), as a strategic partner/consultant on this project? |
| 224 | When will other factors (e.g. school performance) be taken into consideration in the planning process? |
| 225 | What is the rationale for closing a school of over 800 students when the surrounding schools (some of which are miles away) can't absorb that number even if they are expanded. |
| 226 | I appreciate that specific cluster discussion may not be the best use of time in this online meeting, but the folks in the Evansdale area want more information about the current plan to expand Livsey instead of expanding Evansdale. We would like to know what considerations have been taken into making that particular choice, because while we understand that we cannot keep all of the little schools (much as we wish we could) we want to know WHY one school is chosen to be closed / repurposed and the other to be expanded. Specifically, we are interested in Livsey vs Evansdale but the answer might be more expansive. Thanks. |
| 227 | It seems that every question was “answered” except the one about possible flight in droves from parent in high-functioning schools. That doesn’t look like transparency to me, it seems you might not want to answer these questions. Do you have the data to back some of these scenarios that realistically will result as a part of this process? |
| 228 | How is a school like OGE that operates essentially as an extension of the Coralwood model not already be fully funded given the program weight in the funding formula? |
| 229 | "Working toward a plan" can be informed by pilot projects or current projects. My understanding is that there is a school that has recently been constructed for grades 6-12. How are the buses and arrivals/dismissal times for that school going to be handled for the grade bands at that school? This is not theoretical. This is about keeping students safe. |
| 230 | Seems like the special schools are just getting the leftover buildings, which means probably 5-10 years out. That looks like putting these schools in the very last priority-- while giving higher priority to ELCs that bring in no state funds for 3 year olds? There are thousands of high performing students in the special schools that shouldn't be relegated to being considered last. |
| 231 | Freedom middle, Redan Middle School, Salem middle school and Columbia middle schools are all listed as potential locations for relocation of KMS in the Round 2 (in the Central Cluster scenario). There were no proposed alternative locations that are located closer to Chamble cluster. |
| 232 | Is there anyone on this call who is qualified to speak to pedagogical and socio-emotional impacts of 900+ schools? |
| 233 | When are programs going to be discussed? There are many students in programs who have no idea what is going to happen. There needs to be a separate meeting for programs families outside of these cluster meetings. When can we schedule it? |
| 234 | What is gonna happen to Towers high school |
| 235 | You can’t simultaneously demand that this is all a function of standardizing school capacity to reach a maximized amount of funding and ignore the unique ways in which some schools already reach that |
| 236 | Why was Peachtree mIddle School not addressed in this scenario? I see the numbers you are using show it is at capacity, but there are trailers onsite and being used at this time with an increase in projected enrollment |
| 237 | I don’t understand that answer about not being there for boundaries yet. The board- and Dr. Sauce- has told me they are not voting or approving anything until October/November at earliest. So will the board be voting on just buildings and not boundaries? |
Questions Continued
| 238 | Have you taken into consideration the difference in student instructional needs when combining students from Ashford Park with John Lewis? Or any two schools for that matter |
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| 239 | '@Matt Sachs thanks for the prior answer to my question RE clusters - why was that information not included in the Round 2 scenarios for the Lakeside cluster (where Pleasantdale and Evansdale currently sit)? |
| 240 | It's concerning that all questions about grade bands that DCSD hasn't used before, and how effective they are for students, are being answered by Mr. Richter. We haven't heard anything from DCSD staff to give confidence that DCSD is capable of implementing new grade bands, or that they're even working on it. |
| 241 | If our questions are not answered here, who do we contact to get answers? I have a question about the building that would house the French Immersion Program and if it would have capacity to expand the program. My children are not buildings but they would go into the buildings. |
| 242 | For Grade 6-12 bands, I have asked on two virtual calls and in person about how buses will be managed. No one is addressing safety on buses for these students who are different developmentally and in behaviors. Students who are aged 10-11 years are VERY different and smaller than 16-18 years. Putting these populations on buses together has risks for the younger students. Please address this. |
| 243 | The cost vs. savings of restructuring different areas of the district needs to be assessed carefully. I keep hearing that the Lakeside moves are being made to support the district as a whole. However, expansions will be needed at other schools to absorb the closing schools. This is not the case with other schools/areas in the district. There actually needs to be a cost savings for making changes in each cluster for this logic to work |
| 244 | You just stated that transition, especially to another facility, leads to regression. So, why would you move kids just for grades 4 & 5 while waiting for school expansion projects to come to fruition? |
| 245 | Tracy just stated how LESS transition is better for our children YET in Ashford Park we are proposing a prek/k-3/4-5 move?! So what is better |
| 246 | I went to a newly created 6-12 School in Central Florida. It ended up not working and they haed to build a whole new building to support 6-8. From personal experience, this was not a beneficial scenario. |
| 247 | For clarity, can you state the target number of excess seats the SAP is intended to eliminate, how many excess seats Scenario 1 would remove, and how many excess seats Scenario 2 removes - districtwide? |
| 248 | A lot of answers here state we are talking just talking about buildings. When are we actually going to talk about programs? Programs are utilized by MANY Dekalb students, especially the Kittredge to Chamblee track and theme schools. These programs have had great academic success and do not need to be brushed aside till the last minute. When is this discussion taking place? |
| 249 | Who will be facilitating the small meetings |
| 250 | We moved away from the K-7/8-12 grade bands to PreK-5/6-8/9-12 based on all of the best practices according to research that prioritizes students and their education. How can we plan to keep students enrolled in our schools during these changes vs. moving to private schools then having to re-assess enrollment again in 5-10 years? |
| 251 | Also this webinar only let me join from one device. Right at lunch we are all going from phone to computer can we fix this? I spent half the time trying to get back on |
March 23 @ 6pm
Questions
| 1 | Ashford Park is increasing by 17.8% where the study says it will decrease by 14.8%. With that incorrect information the scenario says it is going to close down and then expand other schools with lower adequacy scores. The claim was a smaller campus but there are tons of examples where it is possible to expand on smaller amount of land. This plan is MORE expensive than just expanding Ashford Park elementary school. Can you explain the details behind the rationale? |
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| 2 | As a new teacher that travels outside of this district. How will my placement be consider based from where I am currently working? |
| 3 | The primary feedback from the Kittredge community was clear: if a better facility is required, it must remain in the same general area to maintain continuity into the Chamblee High School feeder pattern. The proposed sites are geographically incompatible with this request. Freedom MS: 10.8 miles from the current site. Redan MS: 16 miles from the current site. Columbia MS: 16 miles from the current site. Salem MS: 19 miles from the current site. Currently, the distance between the existing Wadsworth campus and these proposed sites ranges from only 4 to 8 miles. By placing both programs in such close proximity, the district is essentially creating a "magnet desert" in the northern and central parts of the county, thereby reducing geographic access rather than expanding it. Please provide clarification on how centering both programs in one area serves the goal of district-wide equity. |
| 4 | The four schools suggested as possible locations do Kittredge Magnet are very close to Wadsworth Magnet, one even just 6 minutes away. With Wadsworth currently having approximately 350 open seats, how does it make sense to put a second magnet school on the same vicinity? |
| 5 | Is this live or a recording? |
| 5 | Is this live or a recording? |
| 6 | Can you please explain what will happen to the DLI programs if the school that has the program closes? |
| 7 | Where did you talk about school performance? You’ve said multiple times that the only thing you’re looking at is buildings and not considering school performance. |
| 8 | Earlier year was going to be moved to another school due to low enrollment. Would I be in this predictiment next year? |
| 9 | How does having differing grade bands by region meet SAP’s guiding principle of promoting am equitable education? These are each fundamentally different educational experiences, with varying data pro/con each choice that haven’t fully been explained or presented to the community. I am concerned that emotional responses around feeling connected to a physical school and the need to use current buildings are getting in the way of choosing a best practice in our educational choices for the district |
| 10 | Also, on your map for scenario 2, Kittredege is listed as part of the Lakeside cluster. Is this an error or are you considering switching the feeder pattern from Chamblee to Lakeside cluster? |
| 11 | Ashford Park ES grew by 31.2% while every comparable school in the cluster was flat or declining. What specific model inputs or assumptions support projecting a 14.8% decline instead? |
| 12 | How are charters schools playing into this. Oak Grove had 690 elementary students before GLOBE opened and they drew and continue to pull a lot of the K-5 students from the same area. |
| 13 | Do you have research to show that larger schools, more classes per grade, and "maximizing staff" benefits the students? If so, can you share the results? |
| 14 | Thank you. |
| 15 | It’s not much of a reimagining of the district if it’s going to be off the table to expand popular choice programs like the gifted magnet and place one within 10 minutes of each eligible student who wants to attend. Student achievement shouldn’t be held back just because the district hasn’t collected sufficient data on programs to be able to properly evaluate the number of seats in all of them. |
| 16 | What is the district’s full cost comparison between displacing Ashford Park students and expanding Ashford Park on a site that appears viable for growth? |
| 17 | Why are some schools that are full, offer specialized programs, and have strong community support targeted to close? Evandale Elementary serves many students and other schools do not offer the French/STEM programs. Seems like many north Dekalb elementary schools are tageted to close, which will hurt property values and cause long commutes away from home for school-to-home trips. |
| 18 | What’s the process for double checking capacity numbers and data used by HPM? Peachtree Middle has been listed as being under capacity each of the last 3 years but it has 12 modular units and isn’t being considered for expansion. Either it’s under capacity without modular units and those trailers should be removed or it’s over capacity for its current use and that needs to be addressed especially given its growth projections - both can’t be true. |
| 19 | What is swing space? |
| 20 | HPM gets paid to manage construction projects. DeKalb is paying HPM to tell us which schools to close? Who is watching for the conflict of interest there? |
| 21 | This is such a personal and important decision that impacts our families and communities. Why did Dekalb hire people to evaluate our schools from Ohio? They keep saying community engagement but no one is engaging or listening to feedback. Invest in Ashford Park like they should have done 15 years ago! |
| 22 | HPM ran the same process for Atlanta Public Schools, where the board just voted unanimously to close 16 schools over near-unanimous community opposition. What specifically is different about how community feedback is being weighted in DeKalb, and can you point to a concrete example where feedback changed a recommendation? |
| 23 | Re Kittredge location, it’s also important to note it is accessible to broader county because it is closer to major employer locations so more convenient for families for work commutes to Emory, midtown, Buckhead, downtown. Several proposed facilities are far from student population centers and workplaces and therefore unworkable. |
| 24 | There is ample data that shows that test scores are impacted for 3 years after a school is closed and consolidated - and social impacts are seen through graduation. Given this research, how is it acceptable for DCSD to consider sending Vanderlyn to Kingsley and then redistricting those students AGAIN? Those students deserve better. No student in the district should be redirected twice. |
| 25 | The SAP process was designed and launched under Superintendent Devon Horton, who has since been federally indicted on 17 counts of fraud, embezzlement, and kickbacks, and who personally recruited the Executive Director currently running SAP from his prior district. (1/2) |
| 26 | If overcrowding for Ashford Park is the issue, why is the solution to displace students from a high-demand school and area into other over crowded schools the solution? |
| 27 | Given that the board has authorized a forensic audit of Horton’s tenure, has there been any independent review of the SAP’s foundational decisions, vendor selections, and guiding principles to ensure the community is not being asked to trust a process that was built by someone now facing federal corruption charges? (2/2) |
| 28 | Where does Tracy Richter live? Has he ever lived in Dekalb County? Great ideas he has that may be valid in his community not our school! Shame on Dekalb County. This is about the kids and communities. HBM has no clue of the impacts of changes they are suggesting to make. |
| 29 | On the Tucker, Clarkston, etc. map, it had a red arrow from Brockett ES to Idelwood ES but there was also another gray arrow from Idelwood ES to Jolly ES. Gray is color coded is “no changes” so that’s confusing. I know these are just some options & super specific to my situation but one of my biggest concerns, that I have to assume others have, is where exactly it’s being proposed to send my kids since for some of these schools it’s not super clear. |
| 30 | What is the best way for a community to get their suggestions for change to be considered? Should everyone submit the same suggestion/solution via the SAP survey? |
| 31 | Vanderlyn is one of the highest performing elementary schools. Can the committee offer evidence of how providing vocational space for a new/undeveloped Dunwoody High School vocational program provides greater educational outcomes for students than an existing currently high performing program? Is the committee prioritzing bringing more extra-county funding to the the Dunwoody High School facility over best overall educational outcomes for students? |
| 32 | Given that there is only ONE very small and statistically insignificant study in HPM’s materials that even looked a a fully separate building 9th grade annex, how is it acceptable to suggest that Dunwoody High school students be guinea pigs for a new and largely untested educational model? Again, it looks like we are prioritizing buildings over tested and reliable educational outcomes. |
| 33 | I second the recent comment. So far, all we heard seems to be brutally ignoring communities’ inputs or performance. In your scpreadsheet and data model, in which columns did you consider community input? |
| 34 | Has it been determined how closed facilities will be repurposed to serve the community needs (e.g., recreation centers, event space, etc.) or to serve students (post-school study hall, after-school programs, etc.)? |
| 35 | Keeping high-performing Vanderlyn with redistricting or a change in grade bands would benefit more students and Dunwoody residents |
| 36 | For neighborhood with proposed school closures, how does the district reconcile its enrollment projections with the risk that breaking up a cohesive K–5 pathway could drive enrollment loss? We are already seeing families leave or planning a shift to private schools. If that behavior isn’t reflected in the data, how are these projections reliable? |
| 37 | Do you have any comparison between what has changed between round 1 and 2? |
| 38 | What would happen to the properties of schools that are closed vs repurposed? |
| 39 | How are we implementing different grade bands without sufficient data to support those changes, but we can’t implement changes to programs without data to support those changes? Why won’t the district consider hiring an educational consultant to work in tandem with HPM to ensure that we are implementing best practices in educational delivery models while also prioritizing our facilities and boundaries? Don’t our children deserve expert input on their educations? |
| 40 | What are options to repurpose schools located in neighborhoods? Those could not be repurposed for commercial purposes. |
| 41 | What is the actual timeline for medium/long term? And why are we targeting fall of this year to make specific boundary changes? |
| 42 | What is the rational behind closing Midvale ES (the largest capacity ES school in the area) and spending money to add capacity at Livsey, a much smaller school that has had modular classrooms for years? |
| 43 | Evansdale ES has strong DLI and STEM program, but school is marked for closing. So is it fair to assume that the prosal to closing should be put on hold until you get a proper answer to the what ahppens to those programs? |
| 44 | Ashford Park isn’t a small campus. There is plenty of space for it to remain an elementary school. This program management company is not listening or have any clue. The county has built all around it and no one wants to go to the other school options. Invest in the schools that are the high performing schools just like Dekalb has invested in the under performing schools. No one is listening to what the Ashford Park Community wants because there isn’t a plan to keep it open. Keep APES! |
| 45 | If we are reducing empty seats and consolidating schools, class density will go up. Given student teacher ratios are directly correlated with performance, what will the ratios be after the changes? Is the plan to ensure that they improve/go down? |
| 46 | Where are the metrics that show mega elementary schools to be beneficial to our smallest students? i.e. smoke rise which is already over capacity and yet would be servicing 1000+ kids? |
| 47 | This is what I have learned in this call- “There isn’t a process”…. “Performance is a slippery slope.”…… How about invest in APES! Don’t close it! |
| 48 | I did not hear an answer on how closing high performance schools will increase average or total performance across the system. Can the committee and HPM reevaluate their support for that position and share it with the audience at the next round? |
| 49 | I am concerned about students' safety by putting 12 year olds in the same environment with 18 year olds. Plus, why are middle schools like Mcnair closing even though it just reopened in the last 5 years? |
| 50 | Its located in the Druid Hills High School cluster technically |
| 51 | Are you all paying attention to census numbers for families that moved into communities like Oak Grove Elementary that would enroll in the next few years? This is extremely disappointing to families that planned ahead when buying new house. |
| 52 | How does it meet SAP’s guiding principles to move the “north” gifted magnet so far away from the north? |
| 53 | I understand forecasts are based on birth rates in DeKalb, but have you considered that many of our students were born outside the county? How does that factor in? I know many of our school’s students were born in Fulton. |
| 54 | What are the reasons that you want schools to be larger that are in the best interest of the students? Is there research that supports that? |
| 55 | Vanderlyn has had consistently top tier performance for decades. The conversation a few minutes ago by HPM about school performance data being unreliable because it can change over time clearly shows how out of touch this vendor is with that school and this district. Yet Scenario 1 and Scenario 2 in Dunwoody are essentially the same. Why are closing those two Dunwoody schools foregone conclusions? Why are you just pretending to give us options when both scenarios are essentially the same? |
| 56 | Has HPM considered what they want as program managers in Ohio isn’t what the community wants in Georgia? These kids and teachers aren’t metrics. They are humans and we have invested in our communities. We don’t want good we want great. |
| 57 | Going back to the origins of this project, is there a reason DeKalb is pursuing a full, district-wide approach rather than prioritizing the most critical needs and addressing them incrementally? A phased, targeted approach would allow the district to measure real impacts, adjust as needed, and avoid unintended consequences. |
| 58 | this dichomtomy doesn’t make sense. From one side, you want it equittable (so community specific), and onthe side, you want this to be blanket process across the district.. which one is it? |
| 59 | Aren’t you just going to create an issue with overcrowding into the Lakeside cluster? Also isn’t there land at Oak Grove to expand? I know you all aren’t looking at performance, but they perform much better than Sagamore and Briarlake. There is something to be said for that and a huge reason for why people bought into this community. |
| 60 | I’ve been seeing some talk in online forums expressing concerns that HPM is making its recommendations based on what will give them the most profitable construction contracts. Can you address those concerns? Is the same company making the recommendations the ones that are already contracted to build/rebuild? Is there a conflict of interest there that needs to be addressed or is there an explanation that can put that accusation to rest? |
| 61 | I live across from Hawthorne Elementary, and hope you do not consider closing Hawthorne and directing to other schools. Our school and community thrive with the close knit neighborhood feel, and disrupting this environment would place hardship on this community. Conversely, I am also concerned how this school would be able to support adding 200 students from Henderson Mill Elementary. I see the traffic already, we are a major cut through from Shallowford road to Briarcliff. |
| 62 | I believe the Vanderlyn question stems from what I also see for Midavale for example. It looks like on the map, the plan would be to feed into Livsey, and then Livsey also seems to have a line indicating some students will also be moved to smoke rise re: the double redistricting |
| 63 | Based on feedback heard from all Lakeside Cluster Elementary, I think it makes sense to continue on Capital improvements with each school and keep the model and set up as is. That is what all of the families, school communities are begging for. |
| 64 | Some of the maps did say that Vanderlyn students could be sent to Kingsley, and then Kingsley is also closing, is that just a mistake on the map? Vanderlyn and Kingsley would close in the same year and all of those kids shift to DES, Austin, Chesnut? |
| 65 | If additional program seats aren’t being considered as part of this, how would there be space for changes in the future? The decision not to expand the magnet programs now to provide local and equitable access to a highly rigorous education throughout the district, is actually a choice that makes that possibility less feasible in the future due to obvious space constraints. |
| 66 | Speaking of schools on the south side, it seems that there have been strategic and systematic closers of schools. Yet, it seems that according to the map and comments on this call, the programs are not equally offered throughout the county. I'm concerned because all of our tax dollars are being polled to provide the best education possible for all students. So, why not bring this programs and not overcrowd high-schools while underutiliztion of others. |
| 67 | What about the teachers and administrators? I assume with schools closing many will lose their jobs, how will this be determined? |
| 68 | Anonymous attendee: Aren’t you just going to create an issue with overcrowding into the Lakeside cluster? Also isn’t there land at Oak Grove to expand? I know you all aren’t looking at performance, but they perform much better than Sagamore and Briarlake. There is something to be said for that and a huge reason for why people bought into this community. |
| 69 | I didn’t appreciate the significance of keeping elementary schools over 450 students until our school dropped below it and we lost our funding for STEM, art, and a school counselor. Is there any effort from the district and/or parents to work together on lobbying the state legislature to revise the QBE calculation, which has not been updated for decades? |
| 70 | There is ample free neighborhood street parking all around Dunwoody High school that is never used. Students can walk a block to school; they don’t actually need more parking. |
| 71 | Will empty building in the middle of residential neighborhoods be prioritized for reuse or what will that timeline look like? |
| 72 | In Scenario 2, you noted that Wadsworth will likely be the subject of additional high-level programmatic discussions in future iterations. Could you please clarify what is meant by this? Additionally, should the same facility recommendations proposed for Kittredge be considered applicable to Wadsworth, or will those needs be evaluated separately based on its anticipated use? |
| 73 | Is HPM already guaranteed to be awarded the construction projects? I see they are the contractor for Dresden Elementary? |
| 74 | During Covid Dekalb saw a mass exodus to private school as many of those were restarting in person prior to DCSD- how is this not going to just be another mass exodus of those who have the means for options?? Especially with the new tuition grant money from the state. |
| 75 | Just a comment from a 25+ year veteran educator. Things are always changing and there tends to be patterns that take a few years. I've seen times where people leaned privated, then it would shift 5 years later let's say. I have seen this many times over. (This is just a comment). |
| 76 | Excuse my typo: private |
| 77 | I was not in DCSD; I was in Fulton. |
| 78 | Can we see the costs associated with keeping a school open vs closing and expanding another school? |
| 79 | Why wasn’t an expansion to add another floor at Dunwoody high school considered given its consistent growth projections? That would provide a data-tested learning environment for 9-12 all in one building and keep the cluster together. Free street parking is already readily available on adjacent streets to accommodate growth. |
| 80 | Brockett is missing on the Capacity, Utilization, and student Density Heatmap- FYI |
| 81 | The Scenario 2 graph at the end very clearly states that Vanderlyn students would be sent to Austin, DES, and Kingsley in the short term. The Dunwoody cluster is rightfully livid that this scenario would mean Vanderlyn students would be districted twice in this plan. |
| 82 | On the "North_Poster.pdf" on the website, the final column of the table in the row for Vanderlyn says "Students would likely need to split between Austin, Dunwoody, and Kingsley in the short term". It's not shown on the map that way though, but that's where I saw it |
| 83 | I also want to add, I taught in my middle school when it was only 550 students vs when it grew to 1200 students. I see pros and cons to each. I say this is correct. More offerings are available under a larger school---more language offerings, more connections as possibilities. Fulton did this years ago....made smaller schools larger. As an educator, I liked it better because I was more successful teaching 2 preps vs 3. |
| 84 | We all hear HPM, but what will the district do to ensure the effectiveness and implementation of such monstrosity? |
March 27 @ 10am
Questions
| 1 | Why is community feedback from Round 1 not incorporated into Round 2? |
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| 2 | Will any part of SAP be funded out of ESPLOST VII? |
| 3 | Why is Round 2 survey response due the week of spring break? This needs to be delayed to later in April or early May. |
| 4 | Why is Sarita Smith still employed by DCSD when she made payments for Horton WHILE interviewing with DCSD? I’ll be making an ethics complaint. |
| 5 | How is all of this going to be paid for? I can’t realistically see how DCSD can afford any of this with existing DHH rennovation project and the impending decline in funding from property taxes. Please explain. |
| 6 | What was Dr. Horton’s involvement in securing the contract for this project? Is it trustworthy? Does a company that is essentailly a contruction company have DCSD’s best interest in mind, or are they going to reccmmend as much construction as possible? |
| 7 | Why was the general public split up into various small groups in the public meetings? Various HPM employees made conflicting and untrue statements throughout rooms at all of the public meetings. This is unacceptable. |
| 8 | What is the estimated cost to change a 500 seat school to 600, 800, and 950 seat schools? |
| 9 | Are there any plans to downsize and cut expenses at the district itself, since less kids equals less administrative needs at the district? |
| 10 | It’s time to admit to DeKalb County students that HPM and the SAP committee has no regard for student outcomes and welfare. It’s all about buildings. |
| 11 | What does “expanson” actually look like at existing schools (for example Briar Vista Elem)? I don’t want all of the outdoor play space at my child’s school overtaken with classroom trailers. That is NOT an improvement. |
| 12 | There seem to be mulitple errors in some of the reported provided from HPM. Are they able to provide the full reports with actual data that they utilized to make their recommendations? |
| 13 | This question may have been asked in previous meetings so I apologize if I'm asking it again. As this is the first time I'm joining these meetings. But how are you all deciding which schools close or is this just based on the district in a whole compared to other districts? |
| 14 | The enrollment and utilization problem is an issue in the South. Why is DCSD, HPM, SAP not going into these communities and figuring out what these communities need? What about special programs, STEM, DLI, etc. to draw students back into the buildings? |
| 15 | What is the estimated savings from closing an elementary school and leaving it empty? |
| 16 | Why is 6-12 only being considered for South Dekalb area. Why are elementary school expansions not proposed for South Dekalb schools? |
| 17 | District standard of 900 is pre-COVID and outdated. These large DCSD schools are actually underutilized relative to smaller schools and have worse outcomes. Why is this 900 number still discussed? |
| 18 | How was this 600 student population decided? Is it an HPM number? Hans suggested that it was something developed by HPM and its an arbitrary number. Pls explain. |
| 19 | HPM commonly quotes 600 as a good school size because it allows four cohorts per grade. That is based on DeKalb having a waiver to not follow GA class sizes. If we followed guidelines, many of the schools flagged for closure or expansion would have 4 cohorts. While this process doesn’t touch class sizes, why would HPM focus on 4 cohorts when we could have that today if we followed state class sizes? |
| 20 | Given the recent analysis around HPM's track record and impact on school districts - why should we believe that they are the right partner to help move Dekalb forward? https://roughdraftatlanta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/HPM-Full-Track-Record-Summary.pdf |
| 21 | PK - 8 schools are tricky (my child was at one for k-1). A 4 year old and a 13 year old have very little in common and have very different needs, and often the younger kids don’t always feel safe around the tweens. It also makes school-wide events very difficult to coordinate given that age gap. |
| 22 | '@ Scott Leopold: Feedback from Round 1 is incorporated into round 2, but consider that feedback is one peice of this, the data and goals must also be considered. Follow up question: then why isn’t feedback about incorrect data addressed, at a minimum? SAP goals are ‘leading’ in that they already include the solution (close schools) instead of true goals. They should be re-written. |
| 23 | When will transportation analyses be completed for proposed schools for expansion? This should inform if a school could or could not be expanded. |
| 24 | Why are taxpayers not receiving full data projections from HPM that show the effect of closing school A vs school B on a 5- and 10-year timeline? This is very simple math and many parents are resorting to doing this unpaid labor themselves. But with what taxpayers are paying to HPM, we should be getting more than a 1-pager or a video of fluff. Parents want and deserve to see the raw numbers and actual projections of what each scenario will actually look like for our clusters. |
| 25 | The needs of the over capacity high schools are very different than the needs of the under capacity schools. A one size fits all approach will not work. Why not pilot these by high school according to the needs? |
| 26 | Yes, births are trending down currently, but how many years did you go back to get the numbers for enrollment and the trajectory, with the decline of enrollment for the Covid year and a half, to me it seems it now just starting to catch back up looking at the size of first grade classes, kindergarten and pre-k? |
| 27 | Why is 6-12 only being considered for South Dekalb area? Why are elementary school expansions not proposed for South Dekalb schools? |
| 28 | Will you allow a committee for planning programming by cluster for round 3? So there is a magnet in each cluster? So we can address literacy issues. So is a focused ELC in each cluster. |
| 29 | So we are talking about annual savings of $1M-$1.5M per school. Why are we uprooting thousands of students to achieve such minimal savings? This makes no sense. |
| 30 | Since these scenarios seem to be based only on the building facilities and not the education nor success of the schools themselves, can anyone speak to which scenarios will actually be taking this into account? You are talking about closing several high perfoming schools and moving magnet programs, and changing clusters which will certainly affect students at these closed schools. The talking about closing of schools where there is existing overcrowding due to underenrollment in other locations is asinine. You are talking about moving these kids to other schools that are already overcrowded. Moving around deckchairs on the titantic to spend tax dollars the county seemingly doesnt have to justify your job. |
| 31 | There seem to be mulitple errors in some of the reported provided from HPM. Are they able to provide the full reports with actual data that they utilized to make their recommendations? I will reask as it seems like my question was missed. |
| 32 | '@ Scott Leopold: I don’t understand your reference of "close to the boat" projects that can be funded out of SPLOST VII? What are you specifically referring to? |
| 33 | How will DCSD correct the data errors used to justify closing APES — specifically the inaccurate 2030 enrollment forecast and the incorrect lot size of 4 acres when GIS confirms 7? |
| 34 | Why does this map show Vanderlyn kids going to Austin and Dunwoody when in fact they would likely need to also go to Kingsley which is also tapped for closing and is in terrible shape. This map is used for the public and it’s misleading. |
| 35 | The school capacity numbers used by the district, and by HPM in their calculations of “empty seats” is based a target avg class size of 24/elem class. Redistricting using that capacity elementary target instead of avg 21 (per stage regs) limits the district’s future ability to roll its facilities savings into improving student outcomes across the district with uniformly lower target elementary class sizes than we have now, which many see as untenably high. |
| 36 | Lakeside cluster feedback needs to be considered. There were no changes between Rounds 1 and 2. |
| 37 | Why was performance of a school not considered in identifying schools for closure? Instead of closing high performing schools like Vanderlyn, Oak Grove and Ashford Park - instead, how do we expand those schools and provide more access to students that are in areas where schools are not performing as well? |
| 38 | Different school grade bands provide dramatically different educational experiences for students. It doesn’t seem to meet the SAP guiding principles to provide such wildly different educational experiences from cluster to cluster. |
| 39 | In the Lakeside cluster, the ITP elementary schools account for only 305 empty seats this year and only 385 total seats in the 2030 projections. These schools have wait lists with students unable to get in for prek and school choice which could easily fill those seats. Why plan for 2 closures only saving ~3M when we’d be spending probably 10x that to expand the 3 remaining schools just to fix 1.9% of the empty seats issue? That’s a large investment into our area that doesn’t fix the county issue |
| 40 | What data/research supports grade level band changes? What qualify HPM to adise as an educational consultant, if you are not educational consultants- like Leopold told us yesterday at Dunwoody, why should you be advsing in this massive/hisotrial redistricting? |
| 41 | At Peachtree Middle School, HPM’s data assumes that despite a non-covid historical average of only 9% of eligible children choosing other education options (beating the district average of 10%), that rate will suddenly increase to 12% starting fall 2026 and that this won’t be corrected for the next decade. What is the process within the district for verifying and correcting incorrect assumptions in HPM’s data? Please be specific. |
| 42 | Are things like bullying and other inappropriate things by middle to high school students considered when trying to combine them with younger students? Because I agree with the anonymous person mentioning how that would be tricky. Your opening the eyes of PK-5 to be exposed to the things these middle and high schoolers are doing on campus. |
| 43 | Given there are a lot of potential options, odds are there will not be sufficient money available, even with a future ESPLOST. In one of the future scenarios, do you plan to identify highest priority / easiest items vs. lower priority / more complex items? Will rough order of magnitude costs be provided for each option? For example: Closing a school where all students are planned to go to an existing school with capacity and no major capital improvements are needed would result in high savings and low complexity and should therefore be a higher priority. If a school is planed to be closed and converted and expansions at other facilities is required to close that school, the savings of closing the school would likely be reduced due to the cost of converting the facility and the cost of building expansions (or new facilities) for the students to go to – so this would be a lower priority / more complex item since it would save less money and rely on multiple capital improvement projects. |
| 44 | In the scenarios it appears as if you are talking about sending kids to different schools for a period and then adjusting grade bands as other schools are built which could be very dependend on funding, etc. Can anyone talk about this? |
| 45 | HPM is saying that if Scenarios had more info on Capital cost, transportation cost, and feasibility of student moves shown by "arrows," that this would mean that they had already decided upon a Scenario. No! It would tell the public that the Scenarios being presented were affordable and realistic. I would love to hear more about this. |
| 46 | To fix the enrollment per school, just change the boundaries. No 6-12. |
| 47 | If these mega schools need to be created, there is more research done where PK-8 is healthier and provides a stronger educational environment than 6-12th. PK-8 is healthier because it allows the older children to feel like leaders and have more responsibility in the school while keeping them innocent. 6-12th is dangerous and brings harm to children as you are placing 11 year olds with 18 year olds. It exposes these younger and more impressionable age group to more pre-adolescent behavior. We should not be supporting 6-12 as an option. |
| 48 | To follow up on an answered question, a target of 600 students per elementary school with 4 grade bands per grade equals 25 children per class, which is above DeKalb’s target even as a strategic waiver district and well above state recommendations or any best practices in the education industry. |
| 49 | 6-12 campuses are not acceptable in South Dekalb. Herding 11 year olds and 18 year olds together does not benefit our children. Our schools are already less educationally adequate as you describe them. This will make them even more inadequate. |
| 50 | How many empty seats would we have if Scenario 2 was implemented? |
| 51 | Where is the funding coming from in light of declining funding from impending property tax lelgislation? |
| 52 | So the only thing being looked at is number of bodies and how HPM is defining buildings? You are not looking at academic success metrics, childhood development data, or whether you are even shuffling students into a better school? These are children- not objects in warehouses. |
| 53 | When are these changes potentially going into effect? Specifically for Central Zone |
| 54 | with bigger schools being proposed what is the expectation about class size and student to teacher ratio for elementary age kids? |
| 55 | '@ Tracy Richter: I hear a lot of reference to listening and appreciating feedback from various clusters EXCEPT Lakeside. Please explain. No one in multiple rooms at the LHS community meeting would vote to approve any of the Round 2 recommendations. |
| 56 | If I understand correctly, Scott Leopold partly answered my question in response to someone else. To confirm, it sounds like prioritization will be occuring in future scenarios? If so, my question about rough order of magnitude costs in future scenarios still remains a question. |
| 57 | When the district purchased the Kroger building behind closed doors for 6.5 million, couldn’t they of repurposed a school that is closing, in February 2025 WSBTV did a report that a spokesperson Jennifer said “not to worry, the 6.5 came from a separate fund and they had $550 million, plenty of money to do what’s needed to take care of our schools.” With 138 schools in the district that breaks down to a little over 4 million a school for maintenance, so what’s the truth with funds? |
| 58 | I have heard you discuss numbers. Does your company have anyone looking at the psychological effects these changes will have on the students and the parents. Not to mention the potential financial strain this could have on families. Historically school systems have not saved substantial on mass changes like this. |
| 59 | Development within the county varies wildly from area to area. Yet the SAP website only cites general DeKalb development and not cluster-specific, such as the City of Dunwoody’s master plans. The scenarios seem to ignore huge development planned in the north of the county yet puts the 3 remaining Dunwoody elementary schools each at 95% capacity with a target 24 kids/class, leaving no room for lower class future class sizes or the new development in the area that we know is coming. |
| 60 | If schools are closed, will the special programs (DLI, IB, etc) also end? My neighbors and I have chosen certain schools intentionally to enroll in those programs. If they end, will the programs end prior to the school closures/relocations or will they remain up until that point? |
| 61 | Why is DCSD continuing a consequential redistricing process started by a superintendent who has been indicted, in other districts HPM has worked with- they’ve provided a full picture of the plan (including boundries, programs and cost) on the front ed for stakeholders to give meaningful feedback on….why can’t we do that here…. |
| 62 | The amount of change that is being proposed is placing an unnecessary amount of stress on parents and families in Dekalb. How is the amount of change being managed and thought about? What support will you offer for families where every school and program serving their communities may change through this process? |
| 63 | Considering the magnitude of these changes, why are there no other alternatives provided (i.e., alternatives other than closing schools)? Why is there no evaluation of ‘status quo’? We need financial analysis of all these alternatives. |
| 64 | With these changes will there be funds to do anything for the students like after school activities other than sports or clubs? Examples of study groups of some sort to keep the kids out of the streets and out of trouble or will that be something the school staff will need to implement themselves? Because when staff is trying to leave immediately when the last bell rings it shows no one cares about the kids in my opinion unless its during school hours. If that makes sense |
| 65 | How many scenarios will be presented to stakeholders in total? 3? |
| 66 | I imagine many families are unhappy about these chagnges. Enrollment has been trending down, and as parents become increasingly unhappy, will look toward private schools, charter schools, and other education opportunities (including moving to Decatur or Atlanta) in response. How is the district considering this in the decisions, and the long-term impact of the public school system. This seems like the first step in completely dismantling neighborhood elementary schools. this is on trend with the rhetoric from the federal government and incredibly disappionting to see it reflected in Dekalb county's plans. |
| 67 | Will the district actually come out to the communities to see exactly what’s needed being a lower income community everyone was not able to make these meetings to express their concerns speaking for the South Cluster Toney and Columbia on top of transportation and rezoning? |
| 68 | *I said elementary because my children are elementary age, but of course this affects all families & grades |
| 69 | '@MattSachs as a private equity backed turnaround executive who takes on multi-site organizations and improves performance I strongly disagree with your performance assertion. Performance is based on what comes together in a site - students, parents, teachers, culture, leadership. By closing sites and splitting communities performance will decline. More students will seek alternatives and leave the district. Your assertion that facilities simply "facilitate academics" is inaccurate and flawed. |
| 70 | Why is all of DeKalb’s real estate not being considered? Dunwoody High School doesn’t NEED the Vanderlyn site if expansion is even still needed after redistricting Hightower. It could easily move some of its practice athletic fields to the chamblee-dunwoody elem/old shallowford property and expand classroom space on its current footprint or on the large % if its property that is currently occupied by trailers. |
| 71 | Have you considered that at the district as a whole with two Superintendents indicted and many years of schools being neglected might have broken confidence in the district and have an effect on enrollment as well? |
| 72 | How are you planning to pay for all these plans? What will this cost? |
| 73 | Is it possible for the school grounds to become dual use so that there can be an alternate method of revenue stream? I.e. updating playgrounds and fields with a pavillion so that it can be rented out? Would this allow justification for rebuilding smaller schools and keeping the community feel like many community members hoped for? |
| 74 | In this scenario there was mention of moving Kitteredge to locations about 45 minutes to 1 hour away given avilable facilites. As there is already a HA school in the south part of the county has there been consideration for other sites to maintain enrollment? |
| 75 | Has any examination been done on the impact of combining Idlewood into Smoke Rise Elementary last year? We have a real life example of school redistricting impacting a school in the county and evry parent I know in the school has had a negative experience with the influx on new students now overcrowding the school. |
| 76 | I understand closures are necessary and focused right now on facility conditions and operational efficiency. When will the district begin planning for student outcomes— reducing harm to displaced students and increasing supports to maintain or improve academic success? And how will the DCSD community be included in these decisions or implementation planning? |
| 77 | is school performance going to be a consideration in any scenario or are the buildings the only thing being looked at as a deciding factor? |
| 78 | For example there are many businesses that need studio space after school. They are currently renting those spaces from private schools, why could we not do that as a public school? |
| 79 | In response to David Yoke and his comment about some students MAY going to a school scheduled for closure temporarily. Feedback is that moving a student twice is NOT acceptable. If you are already going to disrupt the community by closing the school, wait until there is capacity available to put students in their permanent location. |
| 80 | How many families are you expecting to move to a different district or going the private school route when your boundaries forcing their kids from a historically high performing school to a low performing school are announced. |
| 81 | Will German Immersion remain until highschool? |
| 82 | Why does it seem that what matters most is buildings and infrastructure vs. student well-being and academics? Particularly, closing schools that are high achieving and sending those students to lower achieving schools |
| 83 | Cherisse, where are you getting the questions from if not in the Q and A box? |
| 84 | Would it be possible for HPM to share the total Cost Avoidance using the Cost Avoidance data revealed in Scenario 2? Meaning, for each school closure candidate decide it is't min/max/average and then total up those Cost Avoidance savings. Surely they have done this - why not share with the public? Thank you. |
| 85 | Can you speak about the reality of ESPLOST funds being available for Dunwoody High School expanion (ie, using Vanderlyn as 9th grade annex) any time soon? It seems like this could be a reasonable consideration but with much more research on investments and feasibility of the idea. There are big concerns about closing Vanderlyn at 86% and splitting them up to 3 schools while Vanderlyn would sit empty while planning and funding are considered. |
| 86 | I have a question about the methodology used to develop the building adequacy scores for elementary schools. The current methodology for most elementary schools uses a 4 sections per Grade (624 Capacity) model. Based on my interpretation of GA State Law, the maximum individual class size with a full-time professional for Kindergarten and 1 – 3 grades is 20 and 21, respectively. The maximum individual class size for Grades 4 -5 is 28. A 4 sections per grade elementary school should only have a maximum of 556 students. HPM and DCSD’s model assumes 64 more students than permitted by GA State Law. By estimating a higher capacity, the current model results in lower scores since square footage and space counts are derived from capacity assumptions. I suspect elementary schools would have higher adequacy scores if we assume a capacity based on what is permitted by state law. What was the reasoning for using a 4 sections per Grade (624 capacity) model that exceeds enrollment permitted by GA State Law? |
| 87 | This is a very concerning response: “ The performance of an existing school was not a primary metric for facilities selection.” High performing schools should absoluelty be studied to determine why things are working well. A new building is not going to fix other underlying issues. This seems very shortsighted. |
| 88 | Without having plans defined for Sequoyah - how can we have a data based conversation for schools in the area in regards to capacity and utilization? When will Sequoyah plans be defined and how will this process adjust based on those changes? |
| 89 | Your cost avoidence spreadsheet has a mathmatical error. Your total annual cost avoidance range does not correctly add the above line items. More specifically, you are 'double dipping' and adding the 'school food nutritional subtoal' twice. Given the complex data needed to make many of the projections, when a simple mathmatical spreadsheet contains errors, it raises the question of the quality of other information being presented. |
| 90 | When are these changes potentially going into effect? Specifically for Central Zone |
| 91 | How do ensure that our feedback is heard and accurately received and recorded? For example, the feedback listed in the Phase 2 report stated that Ashford Park was concerned about losing a small-school environment — when the overwhelming feedback from the community was that we were okay with (and even encouraged) a larger school. By mischaracterizing our feedback it makes us feel like we arent being heard, and in fact, that you are using incomplete/ incorrect information in making your decisions |
| 92 | I don’t understand the ‘financial scarcity’ mindset of DCSD that seems to be driving this effort. Pls explain how $1-$1.5M operational savings per year per school justifies this $1-$1.5B capital program. |
| 93 | The structure of the schools in all areas of the county should be the same if there is any chance of equity in education in the future. As it stands today, there is clear inequity in educational quality across the county. The special programs have always been used to placate the few and continue to not adequately educate the masses. Can we start with teaching all of our children to read by 3rd grade? If education was equitable, you would get less pushback, but t is not. Your differing plans across the clusters reinforces and perpetuates the inequity. |
| 94 | The SAP guiding principles include equitable access to programs. It doesn’t seem to meet that guiding principle to move the gifted magnet school farther from the north, and failing to expand the number of seats in the highly popular and successful gifted magnet (and don’t tell me it’s for lack of data, no statistically significant education data supports a 9th grade in its own building either but HPM suggested that in scenario 2) |
| 95 | What feedback will be asked of/allowed from stakeholds for scenario 3? and how much time will you give stakeholders to respond? |
| 96 | Love Mr. Richter's statement that grade band changes need to be driven by student needs rather than the particular set of buildings that we have. He has stuck with this since the beginning. |
| 97 | This whole project seems like a very contruction-forward solution to a much more complicated set of problems. |
| 98 | DCSD has one 6-12 charter school. I hope someone is looking at how it operates and serves its students. |
| 99 | tracy richter- Can you point to the specific research you are referencing? |
| 100 | HPM has not recommended such wild grade band distraction changes in any of its prior work with school districts. It does not have an education expert on its team to provide best practices on learning environments and that’s why its recommendations are all buildings-focused. Can the district add an education consultant to SAP to fill this huge gap in the process and to ensure that student outcomes are given priority over building efficiency? |
| 101 | Is SPLOST the only revenue stream for SAP projects? If so, any of these reccommendations will require community buy in, support, and votes. |
| 102 | MR Richter is quoting data on how changing schools results in backsliding of kids, yet in these scenarios you are taking about having kids change school bands possible multiple times.. This is on top of the virtual years, that i we cannot yet quantify the effect of. How is this being considered, or are we only looking at dollars and cents? |
| 103 | Tracy Richter mentioned that research shows moving buildings leads to regression. If that is the case, doesn't that go against the idea to convert Vanderlyn to a 9th grade academy where the students would transition building twice in 2 years (once middle school to high school, then again 9th to 10th grade)? Or perhaps my understanding of a 9th grade academy is wrong… or do you consider a building that is a quarter of a mile / 7 minute walk away to be the same building? |
| 104 | Please do not ignore this question, Is it possible for the school grounds to become dual use so that there can be an alternate method of revenue stream? I.e. updating playgrounds and fields with a pavillion so that it can be rented out? Would this allow justification for rebuilding smaller schools and keeping the community feel like many community members hoped for? For example there are many businesses that need studio space after school. They are currently renting those spaces from private schools, why could we not do that as a public school? If schools have limited resources, how can we increase those resources? Income streams can allow that. Cutting things is not the only way. |
| 105 | '@ Matt Sachs: “It is not feasible for DCSD to operate status quo with the amount of facilites and empty seats compared to the enrollment and continued declining enrollment.” Then why not show us the financials behind this? Why is this information not provided? How can DCSD afford $1-$2B capital plan while saving $1-$1.5M per school. |
| 106 | Who was the other company that bid for this project originally other than HPM? |
| 107 | It is fully unacceptable to close any school in any part of the district before there is a permanent and acceptable place for those students to go. |
| 108 | In moving lower achieving schools/student into higher achieving schools, will this bring down the overall school rating? Besides the claim of more resources distributed to the current, school what will be done to ensure the current school is still high achieving. |
| 109 | Why is HPM’s proprietary model not shared with the community? |
| 110 | so, if you dont know the boundries, and then cant look at cost projections, why are we even doing a building plan? why can’t we do it all at once? |
| 111 | These plans don’t seem as thorough as you’d expect from a company the district paid 5 million dollars just in the first year. Parents in our cluster have done more math on the effects of these proposals just after our kids’ bedtimes over the last week than it appears HPM has done on any of these scenarios. |
| 112 | '@ Tracy Richter: Why are you discussing transportation/buses when in fact what you’re proposing is putting students into buses that have to drive longer distances to schools outside their community? It actually becomes a barrier to access. |
| 113 | When putting a school on a closure list that is 7 years before the closure could even happen - how would those schools maintain top teachers? |
| 114 | Would it be possible in the next round of scenarios, where students from closed schools are being moved to multiple schools, would it be possible to show an estimated number or percentage of students going to each new school and the projected design capacity for schools undergoing expansion or rebuild? |
| 115 | Is there a law or a policy that prevents creation of capital? |
| 116 | Tracy Richter is speaking as if he is an educational consultant and he’s not. What are his qualifications to make any of these statements? |
| 117 | If you assume that the district wants to use facilities savings to improve student outcomes by targeting an elementary school class size of 18 kindergarteners/class (20 with a para), 21 in 1-3, and 28 in 4-5, the district reaches this goal for the Dunwoody cluster by 2034 by expanding Chesnut to mirror Austin and closing only Kingsley (not Vanderlyn). But if it closes Vanderlyn too, it cannot achieve this goal b/c all schools would be 110% capacity for those numbers. |
| 118 | If the main issue with ES in Lakeside cluster is that they are just too small, couldn't that be considered a lower priority than the large # of schools that are very underutilized? Seems that we need to focus on the changes that will result in more cost avoidance and more student opportunities, rather than making changes in a cluster that is working well for students? |
| 119 | I have a similar question regarding what changes occured between scenario 1 and 2 for APES. What feedback was taken into account and how did that change the plans at all? Specifically, have you considered simply expanding APES and not investing in having to expand both Montgomery and Huntley Hills elementary schools. This is especially important considering the data being used about APES is faulty (not 0.4 acres but actually 0.7, and wrong enrollment predictions) |
| 120 | I don’t want the board to vote for any redistricting plan that would prevent the district from ever lowering its target class sizes from 24 (often more) children per elementary class. |
| 121 | This is a community meeting session. Right now. And we were just told to not submit comments, only questions. That does not feel like meaningful engagement. |
| 122 | Is school performance a slippery slope because HPM is not actually qualified to act as educational consultants? |
| 123 | Not a question just feedback: I think "transition times" need to be minimized to minimize disruptions, meaning if in order to take a long term action a short term action like a closure must be done first, that items should be considered lower priority or less feasable since it is possible (or likely) that the disrupted school would be "stuck in transition" for an extended period of time. |
| 124 | DCSD gets no state funding for Early Childhood Centers so these have to be totally funded by Local dollars. Local dollars are currently used to subsidize small ES. Seems like these are being pitted against each other. Will the public ever see the cost of PK3 education? Are we closing small ES so that the district can funnel those "saved" local funds to ELCs? |
| 125 | What is the total cost estimate for Round 2 Scenario? |
| 126 | Has it been considered for the district to try to land swap the Chesnut property adjacent to Brook run park with the city of Dunwoody (as it did with Austin) for the undeveloped homecoming park on Vermack to build a larger middle school for the whole cluster off Vermack, that could share athletic facilities with nearby DHS, and move Chesnut to the middle school? |
| 127 | Is DCSD worried HPMs plans will bankrupt the district? |
| 128 | '@ Tracy Richter and @Hans: Can you explain “cool, safe, and dry” further? Most of these projects are part of ESPLOST programs already underway. Most roof replacements: $1-$2M. HVAC: <$2-3M, def less than $5M. Security vestible: $500k. These are already programmed aside from SAP. |
| 129 | The immediate priority needs to be student outcomes. Schools that are underutilized, low facility rating, AND underperforming should be addressed before schools that are high performing. |
| 130 | Ive seen conflicting information re Hightower ES: is the plan to move to Sequoyah in 2027 or stay within DHS cluster? |
| 131 | The first and second scenarios were not actually different for our cluster. Only getting one more scenario for community consideration is not acceptable. We need 4-5 more, minimum. |
| 132 | As a follow-up, why is the District pursuing waivers to exceed maximum classs sizes permitted by state law? |
| 133 | Theme Schools at the Elementary level are not district wide School Choice schools. They are open to 3-4 ES only. |
| 134 | This is ridiculous, HPM has done full plans for other districts, theyre just pushing the building plan first to benefit them. DCSD, why aren’t you pushing back on this? |
| 135 | More feedback: Although I understand you can't make full decisions based on new HS being developed, I think there needs to be some data presented and documented showing this is being considered in the scenarios and that depeneding on the boundry decisions that you may be able to avoid spending more captial improvment money, such that the capital improvment money can be spent elsewhere where there are not other possible solutions. |
| 136 | So basically it sounds like you’re moving kids over and over during their time in the district |
March 27 @ 12pm
Questions
| 1 | DCSD- can you change the plan structure with HPM, and get a full plan that addresses boundries, programs and buildings- as well as fiscal projections, like HPM has done for other districts? If this is rushed because of the need to report re ESPLOST, why not get an extension? |
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| 2 | Mr Richter can you address the concerns that school districts that have used your services in the past have not had favorable outcomes for students or the district financially? |
| 3 | Data shows that enrollment isn't declining across the county but schools are proposed to close across the county. How does this make sense and why would the proposal include closing schools that are at capacity (>90%) to move to another school that's also at capacity (>90%)? |
| 4 | Will DCSD address the concerns that there is a conflict of interest for HPM to consult on which schools to close or expand, also benefits buy having the contract to do the work? |
| 5 | Will DCSD address the concerns that this is the first time HPM is consulting on more than builing utilization and has no experience in educational programming? |
| 6 | Ive heard conflicting responses from Dr. Neely and Mr. Ziffer re Hightower and its upcoming boundary changes w Sequoyah MS. 1) Will Hightower move to Sequoyah cluster in 2027? 2) Will Kingsley students be rezoned out of DHS cluster to Sequoyah? |
| 7 | If a one of the grade bands gives you under 450 students at the building, how does that accomplish the objectives of getting full QBE and addressing our aging buildings? |
| 8 | From the outside, it appears that the SAP Committee is approaching this as one-size-fits-all, despite DeKalb County being large and diverse. Even though we're having cluster-specific meetings (which essentially were a facilitated focus group that offered no more than answering the survey), what is being done to make sure the unique needs of students are being met with a tailored approach and not just looking at how many kids are in a school? |
| 9 | Several of the schools slated to close have special programs like language immersion when will the impact on those programs be addressed? |
| 10 | Some schools received programs that pulled students and contributed to empty seats. This seemed to be the case in South Bend, IN as well. What is your recommendation for this? You seem to be addressing this now. |
| 11 | From Round 2 scenarios, it seems that Vanderlyn would close/repurpose prior to Kingsley. Wouldnt it make more sense to close Kingsley first as the ther elementaries in the cluster can accomdate their lower enrollment? This would also not require any capital/esplost considerations |
| 12 | What is the estimated total cost for expansions/new builds under this plan, and how long will it take to recognize savings, including the costs to shift students to new schools? |
| 13 | What attention is being given to the mental health of children who might be subjected to multiple facility transitions if a 4-5 grade band is implemented? In addition to the anxiety that this could create, the regression concern is very real. |
| 14 | If you are thinking about programs then where do you see Evansdale's DLI program going? The scenario splits our school, so where is the program going? |
| 15 | Have traffic studies been done where schools are being proposed for closure? For example, Phase 2 proposes Ashford Park students moving to several other schools that are easily 20-25 minutes away during rush hour, commuted to on highly congested roads that already have multiple schools located on them. How can you expect parents and students to navigate that? And buses are not an option -- they come way too early for most of us to consider using. Plus, we don't want our children on the bus for 30-60 minutes each morning. |
| 16 | Evansdale is proposed to be in 3 different clusters. Evansdale is closest to Henderson Middle (Lakeside) with many Evansdale students walking to and from school. Sending Evansdale to Tucker or Sequoyah would put them over capacity and splitting the community is problematic at best. If you can answer for Hightower and Kingsley, can you answer for Evansdale? |
| 17 | As we move into boundaries discussions, will 85 be considered a hard boundary? I know this has been the case in the past to help with transportation challenges, but I'm curious how this may change future scenarios for the central/north area of the district. |
| 18 | Tracy said that Ashford Park ES requires a deeper dive to understand the unique impacts to this school and area - can you speak to what a deeper dive means? And is there sufficient time to accomplish this deeper dive? And can you speak to the evaluation time it took to develop this plan and how a deeper dive to Ashford Park will not be rushed therefore causing an inadequate proposed plan. |
| 19 | Can you share the reasons that Stoneview and Rock Chapel came off the closure list in Scenario 2? The reasons aren't obvious to the public, although we know that there was opposition. |
| 20 | What's the data behind facility upgrades for the DAA building that was built in 2000 verses schools built in the 1950s that aren't being addressed through SAP? |
| 21 | Can you expand on why Mr. Richter said that Redan has more challenges with becoming a 6-12? Is it site size, enrollment, what? |
| 22 | Does HPM still maintain that Ashford Park Elementary School cannot be expanded? If so, what data does SAP and HPM have to support the position that Ashford Park Elementary School cannot be expanded? |
| 23 | Can you please identify the 10 capital projects planned for south of highway 78? We need a list! Thank you. |
| 24 | Where is Evansdale's DLI program going? This seems to keep getting ignored. |
| 25 | Will decisions on which facilities are closed and consolidated be finalized before we move on to boundaries? I have heard mixed information on this; it seems the final closure/facilties changes cannot be determined until we have a complete picture for communities and parents to review and provide feedback on. |
| 26 | Can you please provide clarity on the arrows coming out of Idlewood? Are some students moving to Jolly in the Clarkston cluster or is the whole school going to feed into the Clarkston cluster? |
| 27 | What is the difference in cost per student between a small school to the proposed new higher capacity school? Expanding many schools will cost a lot of money so how long will it take for the cost difference to be made up so that this proposal will save money? |
| 28 | If the boundary for Ashford Park will be re-evaluated and shrunk for short term relief - causing students to now be districted to other ES like John Lewis, etc. Why can't this provide long-term plan for Ashford Park ES? Therefore, maintaining the community built around Ashford Park ES and allowing students to still walk or bike to school - which a huge park of the culture of Ashford Park ES. |
| 29 | You said that there are 3 scenarios. What type of stakeholder feedback will you be presenting to the community? |
| 30 | In terms of timing, when is the next release scheudled and what will be included in that? i.e., boundary changes / programs / refinements to R1 and R2 |
| 31 | '@Tracy Richter - Will you please upload and provide all of the educational resources that you have been studying and reviewing that supports your (HPM)'s decision to create the following: |
| 32 | What is the potential plan for Redan Elementary? |
| 33 | What was the rationale of adding Kittredge to R2 and potentially moving it further south? Would there be any High Achiever magnet program for the North? |
| 34 | For School Choice, please don't look just at where students have come from in the past. That was probably a big function of where the School Choice program was located. If you move it a significant distance then the "sending schools" might change because the new location becomes more convenient for some and less convenient for others. I know you know this, but it didn't come across. |
| 35 | You speak of performing a feasibility study for APES expansion, but how quickly can this be done without you all finalizing plans in scenario 3 and ultimately deciding to close it prior to a true review and feasibility study being performed? Our concern as parents and faculty at APES is that these decisions are being rushed before real data shows that our land is larger than you state (0.7 acres vs. 0.4 acres) and enrollment projected to increase. |
| 36 | Have there been any considerations as to how sports would be affected for the schools that have 6-12? With a 6-12 model, there would be less field and gym space to accommodate middle, JV and high school sports leaving the 6-8 and 9-12 schools with a clear advantage. College scholarship opportunities could be impacted. |
| 37 | Thank you for the list of capital projects below highway 78. Is there a similar list for capital projects north of highway 78? Thank you. |
| 38 | '@Tracy Richter - Will you please upload and provide all the educational resources that you have been studying and reviewing that supports your (HPM)'s decision to create the following: 1) 6-12 schools vs. Pk-8; 2) looking at buildings before school performance; 3) moving students from high performing schools to lower performing schools; 4) ignoring community and student needs in favor of building; 5) that a building first plan is the best way to execute the rebuilding process?; 6) ignoring programs that enriches the county. |
| 39 | David, are you saying that Evansdale will no longer be in the Lakeside cluster? This is a question many families and homeowners in the neighbor have been asking, but it's not being answered. |
| 40 | If the recommendation is for kids to be together in the same school from K - 8, will they be separated in the building? What about on the bus? As a parent, I have huge concerns with a kindergarten or 1st grader around a 7th or 8th grader. Especially if they share a bus. |
| 41 | '@Hans Williams - You just said that programs do not save schools and communities. What does? Buildings? |
| 42 | Will these questions and answers be posted anywhere for future review? |
| 43 | Will you post on the SAP website the total count of parents/guardians that have engaged with round one and round two from each school (removing all district staff)? It would be good to see if all communities are being informed. |
| 44 | Kittredge is not the only magnet school. There is also Wadsworth and Chapel Hill. I think Nancy Kelly is implying that moving Kittredge would not impact it. It absolutely would impact it. It should stay where it is. |
| 45 | As a mental health professional and a student of development across lifespans (specifically child development), I would really encourage revisiting having 6-8 in the same buildings as 9-12. While data varies around the reasons for or against PK-8 versus 6-12, a greater risk may come along with 6-12. |
| 46 | As you think about possibly moving something like Kittredge into a closed neighborhood school, remember that this would be "piling on" to that neighborhood. Their school closed SO THAT it could be used by OTHER students. The neighborhood will have the traffic but only a few lucky neighborhood kids will be able to attend that school. All of the others will now have a bus ride. That's a hard pill to swallow. |
| 47 | Hans mentioned that some schools in yellow pentagons do not or might not need new facilities. Does KMS require a new facility? Has there been any feasibility analysis as to whether it can be renovated/updated so that it becomes an "adequate" facility? |
| 48 | I realize a site analysis is being planned for Ashford Park Elementary. I heard one of the concerns of this is that it could be cost prohibitive to expand the site. Can we get assurances that the cost of this can be analyzed against other additional costs? For example, the additional transportion costs that would be factored in if kids had to go to schools further away? |
| 49 | There has been some discussion about building onto older facilities vs. demo and rebuild in the Lakeside cluster to address utilization. Please explain how a demo and rebuild scenario would work and the impact on small elementary schools during the constuction process. |
| 50 | Has the research on smaller class sizes and a need for QBE reformulation been considered? Making 4th and 5th grade class sizes larger, especially in underperforming schools, does not seem sound from a learning standpoint. What percentage of the decisions will be fiscally based and what percentage will be based on effective schooling research? |
| 51 | Thank you for answering so many questions with detailed specifics. I appreciate it! I’d like to join voices saying that the current Kittredge location does work and that expanding it on property to a 4-8, like Wadsworth, would be beneficial to students. Matriculating to Chamblee High is also a high preference. Thank you! |
| 52 | That didn't really answer the question. In the proposal, how long will it take for this prosal to save money? Or is that not a goal? |
| 53 | after the final scenario 3 is presented end of april/may, what if any feedback will you be taking from stakeholders? |
| 54 | IF a school does close. How will teachers be impacted? Will they have a choice of a new school to work at? Will they be assigned to the school that their students are re-assigned to? There are certain teachers that my older child has had that I would like for my next child to have. |
| 55 | Where is the data that shows buildings first, is the right way to go about this massive redistricting? Why can’t you give DCSD the whole plan (including boundries and programs), then ask for feedback? |
| 56 | Why is this redistricting building plan being pushed through now in May 2026 when we have an interim superintendent and 3 school board members are possibly leaving/up for reelection? |
| 57 | Is it important to DCSD to retain title 1 status in schools when re-drawing boundaries? Or are you interested in balancing the economic health of schools more evenly? |
| 58 | Any comment on the article released yesterday by Rough Draft Atlanta that exposed the overwhelmingly unsuccessful track record of projects like the SAP by HPM and Tracy Richter in the past, where school districts have been left in chaos and financial ruin? “Parents in the DeKalb County Lakeside attendance cluster have done a decades-deep probe into HPM and its vice president, Tracy Richter, finding that facility planning campaigns he has led for more than two decades have a history of mixed and financially disastrous results.” https://roughdraftatlanta.com/2026/03/26/parents-investigate-hpm-consulting/ |
| 59 | What sort of Community service spaces are you including in school planning? Some schools have clinics, Safe Spaces, Zen dens, while others barely have a spare closet to meet these kinds of needs. DCSD's Ed Specs haven't been updated since 2018 and didn't include these types of spaces. What provisions are being made for that as HPM thinks about school sizes? Thank you. |
| 60 | At the Chamblee Cluster meeting last night, it was stated that new enrollment numbers will be collected this summer. How is that data going to be taken into account? |
| 61 | '@matt sachs, it does change the format and timing of this process. there is no need to push this through in May. |
| 62 | Is there any state legislation being considered that could impact this SAP process? |
| 63 | Should Dekalb County families be disturbed by the fact that Tracy Richter’s past projects like this one have been failures, and in some cases, financial disasters for the districts he worked with? Why or why not? |
| 64 | '@tracy richter, the decisions are hard because you are not qualified to be making these types of reccomendaitons for students given that you are not an educaitonal consultant |
| 65 | Why aren’t you answering my question? |
| 66 | This is why people don’t trust this process. These “feedback gathering” events are farces. |
| 67 | Much better Q&A session today. Thanks! |
Cluster In-Person Meetings
- Lakeside - March 23
- Towers - March 25
- Stone Mountain - March 25
- Dunwoody - March 26
- Lithonia - March 26
- McNair - March 30
Lakeside - March 23
Questions
| 1 | Questions about achievement and why it isn't a metric? |
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| 2 | Small schools questions? |
| 3 | Maintaining current clusters? |
| 4 | Making Ashford Park larger? |
| 5 | Brockett is not on the Heat Map? |
| 6 | * PLEASE TYPE IN ALL QUESTIONS ASKED IN YOUR ROOM AND THE ANSWERS GIVEN! EVEN IF YOU DO NOT NEED AN EXPERT DISPATCHED TO YOUR LOCATION * |
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| 8 | In the original presentation it spoke about the expansion of some elementary schools. Please define what expansion means. (Lakeside cluster)Inconsistency between central map (redistrict pleasantdale to other clusters) vs the chart shows briarlake hawthorn (which the school would likely prefer this option, if they are indeed different) |
| 9 | (Continued question from the Lakeside cluster) So what will the new capacity be? |
| 10 | [Just asked for an expert] Why did Horton choose HPM as a firm? |
| 11 | Based on the BOE bylaws, is there anyone who can stop the process from moving forward. |
| 12 | Will Idlewood remain in the Tucker cluster? (Expert is on site. Stakeholder still wanted the question recorded.) |
| 13 | For clairification (elementary Lakeside cluster) what do the colors mean inside the heat map? |
| 14 | How are individuals that have students in specialty schools supposed to give feedback when they haven't been presented with specific scenarios as of round 2 |
| 15 | Any consideration for traffic studies around schools being considered for expansion? And, what is the plan for empty buildings to avoid blight? |
| 16 | How will Livsey be expanded? Out or up? Where will the students have recess if the building is expanded? |
| 17 | Where will the students of Evansdale go during construction/expansion? It looks like they're supposed to go to Smokerise, but they just received "400 students" in the Idlewood redistricting in 2025. How will that work? |
| 18 | The heat maps have no legend and participants want to know what the colors mean? |
| 19 | How were the heat map densities projected and why is it to 2030 when it is already 2026? |
| 20 | What defines a highly resourced elementary school. What resources will be provided for an expanded elementary school? |
| 21 | Where is the proof of the financial loss to the district? How is there financial loss,what does that mean? |
| 22 | Do any of the elementary schools in the Lakeside cluster have deed restrictions? |
| 23 | How will the scenarios take in account the bus driver shortage? |
| 24 | Is there any data that shows student outcomes based on the size of a school? |
| 25 | Is there anyone who can speak to the land acreage discrepancies? |
| 26 | HPM projections contradict the country data reported. Anyone knowledgeable. Trust issue. To flesh this out further, several groups believe the data the closures are based on are incorrect. I heard several people say they had data in direct conflict with data we have cited and they are re-sending in the data for us to review. I didn't get details on which data or what was wrong specifically, but I am interested what the issue is and how to speak to this better when it comes up again. |
| 27 | What happens if we do nothing? |
| 28 | What is the current budget for round 1 and round 2 options |
| 29 | On the 2030 density heatmap pojections, why is Brockett Elementary missing? |
| 30 | Given that the Tucker cluster is growing overall, how can we justify closing schools? |
| 31 | What the financial savings/implications from closing schools? |
| 32 | Answer re Why HPM? |
| 33 | What are the cost savings going to be used for - specific programs, people, etc, and at what schools? |
| 34 | What is the plan for Sequoyah HS timeline? |
| 35 | What is the plan for Sequoyah HS timeline |
| 36 | Would the new school become an IB program |
| 37 | What is the student-teacher ration in elementary school? |
| 38 | What is considered too small to expand (what criteria is used)? |
| 39 | Questions about the RFP Process. What were the other bids and companys? |
| 40 | If a student moves from Evansdale to Livsey, will they remain a Lakeside/Hendrson MS student? And if they go to Pleasantdale, where do they goo to HS? |
| 41 | Why are we closing schools that don't have enrollment issues in the Tucker cluster? |
| 42 | What is considered a highly resourced school? |
| 43 | What is the definition of capacity? under-capacity? Who decides the factor |
| 44 | How will they determine which school each child will attend |
| 45 | How was it determine the school (Evansdale) was too small and needed to close? |
| 46 | What is the plan for Tucker Middle School in 2030? It will be at 107% over capactiy. |
| 47 | What will the buildings being closed used for? |
| 48 | What is the future capacity of Idlewood under the construction plan? |
| 49 | How is utilization calculated? |
| 50 | They would like to have someone come and talk to the group about how closing schools saves money. |
| 51 | How will this impact tax information |
| 52 | What is the plan to address the traffic at these larger schools that already have traffic issues? |
| 53 | Where are the lines for re-mapping for the new Sequoyah HS? How were they determined and by whom? |
| 54 | Was there an on-site evaluation of the schools recommended for closure that meets industry standards? |
| 55 | What dats(and can it be shared publically?)was used in the forecasting model to determine the 2030 projections? And was the county planning (i.e. utilities,planning) utilized in this process? |
| 56 | We want to know what the District considered besides "buildings" - analysis of transportation, infrastructure, economic impact, -long term planning considered? |
| 57 | Why are "we" using such a narrow time window to demonstrate enrollment? The 2020 pandemic is the central data point an anomaly. If you go back to the 80s any drop was always rebounded. Why should we trust these projections, They are already failing w/the 202 projection. It would be great for the raw data used in the projections to be made available as well as projection formulas. |
| 58 | Has a cost benefit analysis been conducted - operating cost vs cost associated with new construction? |
| 59 | Where is the backup documentation for the cost of building fixes? |
| 60 | How does making changes within the Lakeside cluster solve for enrollment issues in other clusters? |
| 61 | Will you speak to the outcomes of other school districts who have former co? Did they save money? Are students and schools better resourced? |
| 62 | We would like to know why evansdale and Oak Grove's Round 1 Input was not taken into consideration when considering round 2 scenarios. What was the purpose of giving the feedback? |
| 63 | Give a better definition of short, medium, and long term phases for this 6-8 year rollout. |
| 64 | Stick to proposded dates/times for feedback sessions once planned. |
| 65 | Define goals in regards to the a monetary return to a community. |
| 66 | Give a new scenario because 1 snd 2 are basically the same. |
| 67 | What is the cost of building repair versus the proposed scenario |
| 68 | Are the neighborhood sidewalks going to be extended to other schools? |
| 69 | Can less administration be hired so that more teachers can be hired? |
| 70 | What is the model for the scenarios being provided and what measures are being used. |
| 71 | Question 2 dictates that a decision has already been made about the size of schools. |
| 72 | Give concrete decisions as to what will happen to the closing building. |
| 73 | What studies have been done to determine the impact of small and large schools on student achievement? |
| 74 | The heat map seems to close same "smaller" school v. redistricting "over capacity" schools. Why? Other under capacity have no change. Why? |
| 75 | What funding conversations have already taken place for these projects coming through? |
| 76 | When are you going to address student wellbeing? Impacts? |
| 77 | What research shows support for larger "mega" schools? |
| 78 | Where is the push for bigger schools coming from? Is it coming from the consultant company? Is it coming from the school district? |
| 79 | What data were uses to determine if a building was determined to be "too smail" or "not able to be expanded"? ... I am not looking for lot size or student attendance and capacity as answers. |
| 80 | Why are we using a consulting group that has already been caught in a corruption scandal? |
| 81 | Explain how low capacity schools impacts resources. Define highly-resourced schools |
| 82 | The population projections—why is there a forecasting of low enrollment? |
| 83 | Sagamore Hills is missing from the HEAT map. Is there a reason for this ommision? |
| 84 | Was it considered that the clifton corridor is growing? |
| 85 | Why is Smoke Rise ES being considered to receive additional students when the heat map reflects that they are already at 98.4% and growing each year? |
| 86 | When will a traffic engineering study be completed to determine if the Lakeside streets can handle additional 300+ students? |
| 87 | Explain the process of the determination of capacity and building utilization. |
| 88 | Why was OGE selected when their building adequacy score is higher than neighboring schools/ |
| 89 | Will the special programs move with the school? henderson Mill's STEAM program. |
| 90 | Where can we find feed maps that correspond to Scenario 2 proposals? The map doesn't show where the ESs would feed into MS & HS |
| 91 | Why did HPM not visit all the schools to make an assessment. Henderson Mill is on the list to be closed and was not assessed in person. |
| 92 | Provide an operational definition of low bulding adequacy. |
| 93 | Why are there so many discrepencies in the data? |
| 94 | What will happen to gifted and special needs students? |
| 95 | Will there be enough teachers for larger schools? |
| 96 | Why is DeKalb using HPM. They were hired by Horton who is indicted. Why are they doing both the contracting and construction? This seems like a conflict of interest. |
| 97 | How are individuals that have students in specialty schools supposed to give feedback when they haven't been provided with specific scenarios as of Round 2. There was no mention in Round 1 and now we're supposed to give feedback in Round 2? |
| 98 | If you're closing schools based on adequacy scores, why is Oak Grove with the highest adequatecy score being closed? |
| 99 | What does "low building" adequacy mean? |
| 100 | What the financial details that can be specifilcally outlined that will accrue fron the current scenario ? |
| 101 | What are the concnerns about the capacity of DCSD to appropriatley manage the instructional operation that will accrue from the current scenario? |
| 102 | I propose shelving ALL of this b/c the information vendors suggestions, etc.. were prepared under the guidance of a corrupt supt who lined his supporters' pockets with $ and contracts GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE |
| 103 | Why are student performance scores not being addressed in any of the decisions? |
| 104 | What are the resources schools are gaining? |
| 105 | Are there intentions to stop this effort until we have a permanent superintendent? |
| 106 | What is done with abandoned properties? What is its impact on property values? |
| 107 | Why are you not proposing reconstruction for Kitteredge's current building (Goose Pond?) |
| 108 | How many does medium to larger term aquate to? |
| 109 | What is the target classroom size? What are educational data say about class size? |
| 110 | They would have liked more SAP experts available to answer questions. |
| 111 | Is there any data showing a correlation between the level of parent involvement and school size? |
| 112 | Are you going to provide data/indormation on grade bands? As we can't provide educated feedback without it. |
| 113 | Why are we considering a contract established under a previous superintendent who is no longer with the district |
| 114 | There were concerns raised about the motivation behind school closures—can this be clarified |
| 115 | Are there any financial gains or incentives associated with closing schools |
| 116 | PK–2 students in large school environments may not be developmentally appropriate—how is this being addressed |
| 117 | For schools with 800+ students, has there been a formal analysis on whether larger schools produce better outcomes and what does the data show |
| 118 | As plans are developed, how is the district protecting student health, well-being, and academic success |
| 119 | How will specialized programs such as DLI, IB, and STEM be impacted by school closures |
| 120 | What additional resources will be provided in consolidated or newly built schools |
| 121 | There is concern that these changes may disrupt established communities—how is this being addressed |
| 122 | What is the core problem or health of the district that these closures are intended to solve |
| 123 | Increased distance to schools may create challenges for families—how will this impact parent engagement and support |
| 124 | How are other districts addressing similar challenges related to school consolidation and transportation |
| 125 | What will happen to teachers and staff at schools identified for closure |
| 126 | Will resources be reduced at schools once they are designated for closure |
| 127 | What criteria are being used to determine which schools are closed |
| 128 | If some schools are not underutilized, why are there trailers at proposed sites |
| 129 | If buildings are closed but not left vacant, how will they be repurposed |
| 130 | For large schools with 900+ students, are sites sufficient to support the projected population |
| 131 | What are the specific plans for high schools, particularly Lakeside |
| 132 | What is the largest elementary school planned and what is the expected student population |
| 133 | If multiple schools feed into one school, how will overcrowding be avoided such as at Smoke Rise Elementary |
| 134 | If enrollment is declining, why is the district proposing to build new schools instead of redistricting |
| 135 | How does building new facilities result in cost savings |
| 136 | Can the proposed 2 billion dollars be used to modernize existing schools instead |
| 137 | Is the district considering selling or repurposing unused properties |
| 138 | How many students are required to adequately fund a school such as thresholds like 400 or 450 students |
| 139 | What is the district’s appetite for increasing the millage rate |
| 140 | How will school closures impact school choice options for families |
| 141 | What strategies are being considered to attract students back from private and charter schools |
| 142 | Why are families currently leaving DCSD |
| 143 | Should different regions such as North and South be approached with different strategies based on unique needs |
| 144 | What will safety look like in larger consolidated schools especially for younger students in PK–2 |
| 145 | Are traffic studies being conducted and how are those findings being incorporated into planning |
| 146 | When will the district share which schools are impacted and where students will be reassigned |
| 147 | Where is the data that shows big schools will be a good choice for students? |
| 148 | How will the larger schools maintain strong maintain strong community engagement? |
| 149 | What class size is considered optimal in these new schools? |
| 150 | NOTE: On the map, Lakeside high School has no action symbol |
| 151 | What are we getting in round 3? Are we getting info about programs/boudaries? I want my feedback to constructive, so I need this info. |
| 152 | Why are the clusted boundaries different for the facility type/proposed action map and the student heat map? |
| 153 | What does highly resourced mean? |
| 154 | What would the plan be for Livsey duirng the transition phase and during the construction phase? |
| 155 | Is the focus on building facilities or improving educational programs as the conversation appears centered on sites rather than educational value |
| 156 | What criteria are being used to determine when to build new schools, close schools, or update existing facilities |
| 157 | How will these plans impact air quality and the preservation of trees and green space |
| 158 | How is this being communicated to taxpayers who do not have children in the school system |
| 159 | Why are we considering a contract associated with someone with a criminal background and why should this be part of the decision-making process when I paid a significant amount for my home so my child could attend Oak Grove and I want Oak Grove removed from the list |
| 160 | When schools were built in the 1950s and 1960s, they were not required to provide the same level of accommodations and specialized spaces now needed for Special Education and other student services. |
| 161 | Parents are concerned about what will be required to meet student needs in a larger school such as Fernbank with 800 or more students |
| 162 | There is concern about whether there is enough land to build larger schools since one model requires 14 acres for 800 students and one proposed site only has 11 acres |
| 163 | One parent stated that her research shows 450 students is the appropriate size for a school |
| 164 | There is concern that the district is applying what may be needed in the South to the North without recognizing the different needs of each area |
| 165 | This should not be approached as a one-size-fits-all plan and should instead be based on the needs of each individual school |
| 166 | Has there been any data on students’ ability to access services based on the number of students in a school building |
| 167 | There is concern that the plan will break up established school communities |
| 168 | We are at Evansdale and, as the school nurse, I can say we are a close community and value that sense of connection |
| 169 | If changes are being made to support the long-term health of the district, how is that being balanced with the health of individual school communities |
| 170 | What will happen to Briarlake and Sagamore while construction is taking place |
| 171 | There is concern about the loss of trees |
| 172 | How will specialized programs such as DLI and STEM be impacted |
| 173 | When will families be told which high school students will ultimately attend |
| 174 | How will the district maintain strong community involvement if schools are consolidated into much larger schools and what does that look like in practice |
| 175 | Where are the 2030 enrollment estimates coming from |
| 176 | Are buildings such as Livsey and Evansdale truly underutilized |
| 177 | How are Building Adequacy Scores being used in the decision-making process |
| 178 | What happens to closed school buildings that remain in neighborhoods and how will they be used if the district cannot afford needed repairs |
| 179 | High school capacity has not been fully addressed and many high schools are already over capacity while families still do not know where students will be assigned |
| 180 | At schools such as Briarlake and Lakeside, how will capacity, parking, and site limitations be addressed, especially at established campuses where there does not appear to be enough space |
| 181 | If the district is already over its SPLOST limits, how will it afford these projects unless it is willing to sell existing lots or properties such as those on North Decatur Road |
| 182 | What will safety look like in these schools when very young children are placed in the same larger environments as much older students |
| 183 | One Evansdale parent stated that going through change was manageable, but that does not eliminate concerns about the broader impact |
| 184 | There is concern that the original rationale for these proposals was underutilization, but many families do not believe that is actually the case |
| 185 | Can the district slow this process down and take another look at the reasons behind the plan, including how to improve schools in South DeKalb so families will want to attend them |
| 186 | The issue is not only declining birth rates because many students in South DeKalb are leaving for charter and private schools |
| 187 | What will be the long-term effect of larger schools on school culture, school foundations, and community support |
| 188 | There is concern about Pre-K students at Henderson Mill Elementary because if the school is known to be closing, families fear the building may not be properly maintained in the meantime |
| 189 | Can the district confirm whether 400 or 450 students is the threshold needed to receive state funding |
| 190 | There is concern that budget standards are driving decisions rather than what schools and students actually need |
| 191 | If Livsey, Midvale, and Evansdale are all combined at Livsey, how large will that school become |
| 192 | Traffic at Livsey is already a major concern and redistricting should be considered as an alternative |
| 193 | What is the maximum appropriate size for an elementary school |
| 194 | This plan may increase air pollution because families will have to drive farther and a transportation study should be considered |
| 195 | Has the district considered using the Parklake building as a site |
| 196 | What options are available for the community to challenge or overturn these decisions |
| 197 | If enrollment is declining, why would the district spend 2 billion dollars to build new schools |
| 198 | Why is redistricting not being considered more seriously as an option |
| 199 | Why not allocate the 2 billion dollars to improving existing schools and use redistricting to balance enrollment |
| 200 | What are the financial details and cost comparisons for building new schools where needed |
| 201 | In areas where parents are sending their children to other public schools, charter schools, or private schools, has the district studied why families are leaving and what problems could be addressed to bring them back |
| 202 | The district should be transparent about funding and how money will be used in Round 2 |
| 203 | What additional school choice options can be offered to families |
| 204 | Lakeside offered to serve as a pilot for a different grade band model and was not allowed, so will the district be more flexible in redesigning schools to meet the needs of each cluster |
| 205 | Is the district considering how Title I funding may be affected by new school attendance patterns |
| 206 | A transportation study should be included as part of the planning process |
| 207 | Round 3 should include community members who do not currently have children in the school system |
| 208 | Is there a plan to prepare srtudents, staff, and administraton for the larger school setting (including mental health considerations) |
| 209 | Scrap the whole plan. |
| 210 | Close fewer schools and only consider closure for schools under 450 students. Use redistricting and school choice to fill available seats. Use the money to provide better education in South DeKalb schools and address building needs. |
| 211 | No mega elementary schools with 600-plus students. These oversized schools cause families to leave the county or choose private school. No one wants them. |
| 212 | We do not support this plan. |
| 213 | Where is the 2030 enrollment number in your forecast coming from? Oak Grove expects 487 students for the 2026–2027 school year, compared with 447 this year. How does your model show a decrease? |
| 214 | Please type in the correct worksheet tab. Either Stone Mountain or Towers for tonight. |
Towers - March 25
Questions
| 1 | What was the thought process surrounding placing 6-12 in the same school. |
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| 2 | Why are you closing Canby Lane vs, Snapfinger when Canby Lane's current enrollment is higher and projected to be higher in 2030? |
| 3 | What is the financial logic for the Cedar Grove cluster? Why close Oakview If the logic is to save money |
| 4 | To help meet our goal, what are the statistics or evidence-based facts to back the larger elementary schools? Will it improve academics and how? |
| 5 | If we are combining schools (ES) into one big school into a big old building, what are the considerations for updates/renovations? How does the plan account for comfortability of students and teachers? |
| 6 | You haven't shown how consolidation improves outcomes. Consider ACE scores Adverse Childhook Experence |
| 7 | What is your safety plan for students as a priority in regards to potential 6-12 or 7-12 combination |
| 8 | Taking into consideration demographics and socioeconomic differences between different areas of the district, please provide more in-depth information regarding - how will these changes bring equitable access to different programs and opportunities in our area (SW DeKalb)? |
| 9 | What exactly is the Capital Inprovement Project |
| 10 | What are the transportation implications for proposed 6-12 cluster schools - school safety? bus occupancy? bullying? |
| 11 | Why aren't there any capital improvement projects for the SW DeKalb cluster? |
| 12 | No one shared the process of what SAP is; they did not provide enough explanation regarding the process. |
| 13 | Are stadiums being considered? Coaches would like their teams to practice 4X a week, but with a boys varsity, boys jv, girls varsity, and girls jv, it's impossible to schedule. |
| 14 | There are 4 apartment complexes around Towers that students walk to and from. If they are getting bussed to Colombia, how are they going to get home from athletics? This is a group that isn't affluent where kids have their own cars. |
| 15 | Why are students in townhouses being zoned for Druid Hills when Towers is closer? |
| 16 | Why hasn't anyone done anything to rebrand Towers to draw more families to it? |
Stone Mountain - March 25
Questions
| 1 | Define short term and long term in regards to timelines |
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| 2 | Why not demolish Robert Shaw for a new building to increase capacity to combine with Champion for PK-8? |
| 3 | Why not purchase additional space for Robert Shaw? There is a empty building behind Robert Shaw. |
| 4 | What is the capacity for Middle and High school enrollment? |
| 5 | Why not address the zoning aspects before making changes? |
| 6 | Will Champion Theme Middle School service same students when relocated |
| 7 | Is there a time line for the captial improvement at Stephenson High School |
| 8 | What does repurpose mean? |
| 9 | What is wrong with the Robert Shaw building? |
| 10 | Robert Shaw was built on donated property. Is there funding for renovations or repairs? |
| 11 | How easy will it be for families to get reliable transportation if Robert Shaw is closed? |
| 12 | What is Redan Middle school going to be used for? |
| 13 | Are we considering the developmental stages of students in a 6-12 model? |
| 14 | Robert Shaw is a good performing school with a close community. The school is invested in the children. Certain families are on a waitlist. What happens with that community relationship? |
| 15 | Low-capacity classrooms are better for education than crammed classrooms. Every educator echoes this. Do not shut down our public schools. Empty seats don't waste money. |
| 16 | How will the scenarios affect the final action plan? |
| 17 | what does capital improvement project mean? |
| 18 | How will the scenarios affect the final action plan? |
| 19 | There are students that get a lot of close support at Robert Shaw because it is small and there are children that grow together from elementary to middle to high schools. |
| 20 | Is this massive plan for schools a result of devlopers trying to purchase and build? |
| 21 | What are the proposed uses for land (Robert Shaw) after school closes? |
| 22 | Considering Robert Shaw as a national landmark due to the land being donated from Robert Shaw (African-American) |
| 23 | Can Robert Shaw receive funds for a remodel of the building? |
| 24 | Why is the community input is taken? |
| 25 | Why are you closing Robert Shaw? |
| 26 | I believe closing Robert Shaw will not improve student growth nor enhance DCSD achievement. The School should be a historic landmark. |
| 27 | Will school choice be impacted by these proposed changes? |
| 28 | What is the district’s plan to address transportation challenges during and after the merger? Once the schools are combined, how will the district ensure bus routes operate efficiently, safely, and without disruption? |
| 29 | If Redan ES stays open and assumes students from Marbut ES and it also require capital improvement, will it require relocation for Redan ES? |
| 30 | What would the community have to offer to change the scenarios? |
| 31 | What is the timeline? What is the priority: school closures or schools moving? |
| 32 | How much does the financial impact weigh into this process? |
| 33 | How much consideration is taken for high-performing schools? |
| 34 | Are magnet schools a specified grade band?Are theme schools a specific grade band? |
| 35 | Since COVID, Robert Shaw enrollment dropped. Why not add more grade levels and magnet programs? |
| 36 | What opportunities will students and teachers have to share their thoughts and feelings throughout this process? Some students may experience this transition as a loss , so how will the district ensure their voices are heard in a supportive and sensitive way? |
| 37 | How does consolidating theme schools give a more defined structure? |
| 38 | Based on the Town Hall, if the school building closes, how will the theme school retain its identity as it merges with other theme schools? |
| 39 | If Robert Shaw closes, this will affect the community center across the street so this has a profound affect to the overall community. |
| 40 | Where will Princeton ES 5th graders actually feed into under the new plan—Stephenson or Lithonia? Will the “line down the middle” that splits Princeton ES continue to determine which students go to which middle school? How will the district address Stephenson being under‑enrolled while Lithonia is over‑enrolled? |
| 41 | Does lottery and school choice affect the closing for Robert Shaw? |
| 42 | How school choice be affected by these proposed school changes? |
| 43 | Why are building being considered and not performance or community? |
| 44 | Clarkston HS should not be a simple expansion but a complete rebuild. We are at capacity. |
| 45 | It feels like the decision was already made about Robert Shaw even though we had conversations with visiting board members that we would be supported last year. |
| 46 | What about the kid's opinion? |
| 47 | DeKalb has 20+ underperforming schools. How will this improve the performance of the schools? How will this impact class and supports? |
| 48 | If the student population increases at school choice schools as a result of SAP, how quickly will resources ( personnel and materials) be reallocated? And how will we measure the quality of the resources? |
| 49 | While the 6–12 model can offer better continuity for students, there is concern about programs that are not currently included in this structure. |
| 50 | Which programs will be impacted under the 6–12 model, and how will the district ensure that resources, space, and staffing can effectively support this redesigned structure? Additionally, how will these changes affect the quality and availability of resources for students and teachers? |
| 51 | Why are people being waitlisted if Robert Shaw is being considered to be closed? |
| 52 | Will Robert Shaw's program remain the same if merged? |
| 53 | Why is student performance not taken into account? |
| 54 | Schools are a extension of community not a vending machine to plu a child in and get an education out from any building that has chairs. |
| 55 | If you are not concerned about performance then you are not concerned about the students. Robert Shaw is a good school. |
| 56 | Is it true a company was paid $2 billion to provide DCSD a feasibility study on this and same company stands to benefit from the outcome? |
| 57 | Would a reduction in programs allow for more quality programs? |
| 58 | I moved to DeKalb specifically for community around Robert Shaw. Do you understand what affect this will have on individuals like myself? |
| 59 | How do we create a unified school system where all clusters are highly resourced? |
| 60 | Where did you all get the 27% by 2030 enrollment statistic? We gave solutions to resolve this tonight? |
Dunwoody - March 26
Questions
| 1 | For Vanderlyn, why do that arrows on the map show Vanderlyn students splitting between Austin and Dunwoody elementaries, but the phasing considerations also mention Kinsgley? |
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| 2 | Why is Vanderlyn even up for discussion to be repurposed if it is well utilized? |
| 3 | Why can't Ashford Park just be expanded? |
| 4 | Can you guarentee that Ashford Park will stay in the Chamblee Cluster? |
| 5 | What educational measures such as academic performance and student achievement were used to determine school closures/repurposing and how were they applied to Vanderlyn? |
| 6 | What data do you have to supports the proposition that closing community schools will help educaitonal achievement? |
| 7 | Since Vanderlyn subsidizes other schools throughout the county according to SAP criteria, how will that help save money? |
| 8 | Since closing community schools will hurt property values which means less property tax revenue for DeKalb's educational budget (which respresents 50% of the budget), how will that increase the money available to fund education in DeKalb? |
| 9 | How much money will the county save by closing Vanderlyn? |
| 10 | This is the dollar amount for the question above: How much money will the county save by closing Vanderlyn? |
| 11 | Have the decisions already been made concerning the proposed changes? The community paper states that the decisions were made prior to the Round 2 Sessions. |
| 12 | where did they get the projections for Ashford Park ES |
| 13 | Why the 7 acres that Ashfordpark Sit on need to have 10 acres to rebuild. |
| 14 | What utilization will PMS have with the trailers outside? |
| 15 | Why is 10 acres required to rebuild Ashford Park ES? WHat site investigation report have been conducted to identify the allotted space that ineeded to rebuild. |
| 16 | who is saying there is water shed issues at Ashford Park ES. and how can a decision be made if an investigation of the site havent occured? |
| 17 | Ashford Park- In the video it does not explain the rationale of who would go to John Lewis? |
| 18 | Where would the 4th and 5th Grade go from Ashford Park? |
| 19 | From question in line 22. Would that be temporary or for good? |
| 20 | Is the data for Montgomery correct or is it old data. The principal shared something different. |
| 21 | What qualifies HPM to advice educational consulting without childhood development data? Parents are requesting someone from HPM! |
| 22 | How can DCSD undergo a massive redistricting without a permenant superintendent in place? Parents are requesting someone from HPM. |
| 23 | How can we make effective comments withouth information on boundaries and programs? |
| 24 | Stakeholders have not been given sufficient time to review, understand, and respond to proposals that will fundamentally reshape their communities. This undermines the credibility of the engagement process. Can you give stakeholders more time to respond and the full picture. |
| 25 | How many faculty does your proposed plan intend on cutting or relocating? |
| 26 | If grades split, where would current Pk-3 kids go to at Montgomery? |
| 27 | Ashford Park question regarding boundaries. Son is a kindergartner and wonders about John Lewis ES |
| 28 | What happens if funding does not come in from ESPLOST as needed/required? |
| 29 | Where does Hightower ES go in this process? |
| 30 | How do we know that HPM is not connected to the former superintendent? |
| 31 | What do the phases look like? Is there going to be a pilot? |
| 32 | What exactly does the expansion look like? in the Dunwoody Cluster? |
| 33 | Based on question 2, who determined the goal? Where did the goal come from? Who's goal is this? |
| 34 | If Kingsley becomes a Pre-K only site.. How will it be funded? |
| 35 | What is the iteration for Kittredge? |
| 36 | Does DCSD own the property near Georgetown Park? |
| 37 | Is there a reason why it feels so rushed and hurried? |
| 38 | How feasible is it to move an entire school? How timely? |
| 39 | Where is the Carey Reynolds building located |
| 40 | IF we don't receive the ESPLOST funding and nor does the district have the money to expand schools, what will the district do then as the response that certain capital expansion projects may not take place is vagaue. See Question on Row 32. |
| 41 | Why is Cary Reynolds not on the map? |
| 42 | Why wouldns't Chestnut be used as a middle school Annex? |
| 43 | How is it helpful for a scholar to go to 4 different schools? (Ashford Park) |
| 44 | What elementary schools would feed into Seqouyah 6-12? |
| 45 | The 9th Grade Annex- Will the 9th Grasders be goiung to the main campus? Band, AP Classes and etc. What will be done about security for those students? |
| 46 | To build trust....... if the statistician use models used by other school districts? |
| 47 | What type of feedback is best for Dr. Sauce and the District team looking for? |
| 48 | Will the Carey Reynolds students stay at Nancy Creek? |
| 49 | What is the timeline for Chestnut expansion? |
| 50 | What is the timeline dfor DHS expansion? |
| 51 | Where are the projected enrollment numbers coming from? |
| 52 | How is the board addressing the enrollment numbers |
| 53 | Will schools stay open until built? |
| 54 | If Vanderlyn does close...what is the timeline? |
| 55 | Teachers: What will be the process for teacxxhers who will have to leave a closed school? Will they be placed in the transfer portal? Displaced? It is not fair that they will have to beg or interview to get a job. |
| 56 | Are capacity numbers accurate based on projections with current 4th and 5th grades still being affected by Covid? Every year, the K andn Pre-K classes are growing faster and faster. |
| 57 | WHy schools that doesnt have capacity issues being affected by SAP? |
| 58 | Why is there no money marked dfor DHS at this time? |
| 59 | Why can't we look at buildings, boundaries, and programs at once? They are wll connected. We can't know what the right choices are for buildings without the other pieces? |
| 60 | 2 Expansions (Montgomery & Huntley Hills) vs One? Not the same issues in the north than the south. Why eliminate a building in an already overpopulated area? How exactly did you calulate 700 students for 2030? What studies have been done to determine Ashford Park ES situation could not support an expansion? Why was our feedback mischaracterized in Round 2 scenarios? We don't want a small school. |
| 61 | Why is there a discrepancy between Round 1 and Round 2 scenarios on the map? |
| 62 | What is the benefit of moving 180 students (4th and 5th grade ) from Ashford park to Montgomery and Huntley Hills |
| 63 | Is there only going to be a redistricting for Vanderlyn and Kingsley and the entire Dunwoody Cluster? |
| 64 | When will maps be shared regarding the proposals? |
| 65 | What feedback opportunities will parents have for the boundary work for Fall 2026? |
| 66 | What is meant by a highly resourced school? |
| 67 | The large school model was not actively discussed. DCSD has a small schools because of former Superintendent Cherry who worked hard to achieve that. A small school model is not like surrounding counties such as Gwinnett , which follows a large school format. |
| 68 | 5th grade classroom sizea are being used. Have you looked at the growth rate for Dunwoody particularly? |
| 69 | Who is involved? School psychologist, counselor to support students with the change of moving to another community school? |
| 70 | Projected numbers and dividied by 3. That would be 937 students. Based on enrollmentn is going down. What will be done to address schools being over capacity? |
| 71 | When is proposed split of Montgomery supposed to occur? |
| 72 | how can we get a true time lines before acting on Ashford Park ES? |
| 73 | Will the 25-26 enrollment figures be incorporated into the models forecast? This is for the Dunwoody HS cluster. |
| 74 | can you confirm if HPM will be hired as the project manager for the construction projects that will result as an outcome of SAP? If yes, do you see this as a conflict of interest? |
| 75 | Lets say the scenarios are approved by the board, but we are just approving the boundaries. If we don't get the money to expand, will Vanderlyn not close? |
| 76 | Why is none of the parents' input from round 1 addressed in Scenario 2? |
| 77 | How will DCSD be able to manage transportation with these changes? |
| 78 | There are so many kids on the school choice waiting list. Is that a principal or county decision...how many they take? What is the formula for school choice? |
| 79 | If the goal is to reduce the amount of under utilized schools, why close schools that are over utilized? |
| 80 | Has there been a cost study done on the Chamblee cluster? To more kids from Ashford Park, expansions would need to be done at Montgomery, John Lewis, and Huntley Hills. How is that efficient to the county and taxpayers vs just expanding Ashford Park. |
| 81 | Why is Hightower a part of the Dunwoody cluster? |
| 82 | Where is the data feedback that supports moving in an early learning center Ashford Park? |
| 83 | Are HPM and DCSD considering developmental appropriateness of groupings? |
| 84 | Why is school performance data not being taken into consideration (including growth not just raw test scores w/ELL. SWD and low SES students)? |
| 85 | How will we move students from high performing to low? |
| 86 | Goal 1 is focused on reducing grade bands, then why close Ashford Park? |
| 87 | Where will the money come from for the upgrades? |
| 88 | What consideration was given to the idea of "empty nesters" moving out of established communities and younger families with children moving into these areas? |
| 89 | The timeline keeps moving which has major implications to our children. How do we focus on accurate data or delay the timeline? |
| 90 | How do you retrofix an old elementary school (Vanderlyn) to accommodate high school students from Dunwoody High School? |
| 91 | Will there be a re-zoning for Dunwoody ES? |
| 92 | Will the redistribution of Kingsley bring the remaining elem. schools to capacity? |
| 93 | We have not seen the data from the recommendations? Will we see it? |
| 94 | What changed between scenario 1 and 2 |
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| 96 | I have a 3rd Grade student at Asford Park. Will she go to Ashford Park for 4th grade in fall 2026? Please stop the segmented process. Buidings, boundaries, and programs need to be discussed at the same time. Where will the German immersion program go for 4-5th grade. |
| 97 | When will the changes be made? |
| 98 | Why should we trust HPM when they have seen negative responses and no changes were made based on the responses with the most recent Georgia school was APS. |
| 99 | Why is HPM qualified to make these educational decisions. |
| 100 | We have a concern of the data accuracy. Ashford Pk. shows projected enrollment below the real expectation of 900 in 2030. Can this data be reviewed? It is concerning |
| 101 | What steps will be taken to minimize disruptions for families regarding transitions and sibling splits? |
| 102 | There are a lot of "What ifs" when will these decisions be etched in stone? |
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| 104 | How can we get qualitative/quantitative data based on the options that are being considered? |
| 105 | If the data changes by the summer, will this process start over? |
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| 107 | We have a concern of the data accuracy. Ashford Pk. shows projected enrollment below the real expectation of 900 in 2030. Can this data be reviewed? Its is concerning if the other data on enrollment is correct. |
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| 109 | IF THE FULL ASSESSMENT OF APS WILL NOT BEGIN UNTIL SUMMER 2026, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE MOST RECENTLY SHARED TIMELINE? |
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| 111 | SO CAN YOU OUTLINE FISCALLY WHY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SPLIT ASHFORD PARK INTO 3 SCHOOLS W/ NO CAPACITY AND HAVING TO EXPAND 2 SCHOOLS VS 1 w/ SPACE 833 STUDENTS? |
| 112 | How are you able to maintain the community from Vanderlyn make kids not feel like a number and just another person. |
| 113 | Data related: How does capacity management impacts educational quality? If more kids come and we close buildings how do we handle it so we are not in the same situaiton? |
| 114 | What about data about what's good for student learning? What is the optimal class size? |
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| 116 | Why is ashford PArk ES considered to be a Pre-k-3 when the building can not housed current scholar? |
| 117 | Why can't you keep Kittridge where it is and renovate? |
| 118 | You already have a decent magnet school on the south side that can't fill all its seats (Wadsworth), why would you move Kittredge South? |
| 119 | Why can't you renovate Montgomery as is on its current site and keep boundaries the same? |
| 120 | HAS DCSD & HPM CONSIDERED THE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CREATING A NEW 4TH & 5TH GRADE ROUTE AND BUSSING KIDS THAT USED TO WALK TO THEIR SCHOOLS? |
| 121 | What is the budget for retrofitting Vanderlyn and how does that factor inot annexing it to DHS? Is there a plan to minimize the number of times a student has to switch elementary school? Under the current plan, a child could attend 3 schools in a 5 year span in Dunwoody? |
| 122 | Why is Ashford Park on the closure list when SAP’s own goal is to focus on underutilized, not overutilized? APES is highly performing – why not focus on re-drawing boundaries if expansion is deemed impossible? |
| 123 | Kingsley needs a new HVAC in the school. How will the short term repair will hold on? |
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| 125 | What would happen to the German Dual Language Immersion program if Ashford Park closes? |
| 126 | If Vanderlyn is torn down or remodled to create a 9th grade academy - why would 9-10th or 8th - 9th go to Vanderlun and will that increase parkinbg for DHS? |
| 127 | I wondering what educators involvement has in the process of the SAP. |
| 128 | How does funding support the propsed timeline? |
| 129 | What would happen to the $23.5m renovation already approved last year? |
| 130 | Why is the district proposing widespread and immedicate redistricting that could disrupt so many schools? Why are we doing so much at once? Why aren't we starting a pilot? |
| 131 | Funding plan? 9th grade annex - how does it work? Data? Budget? Whats the plan for displaced educators? |
| 132 | Are there any parent engagement and school climate data available for DCSD schools? If so, please publish it. |
| 133 | Have you worked with or when will you engage w/ GDOT and traffic engineers to assess actual impact to roads around Chamblee cluster? Ashford-Dunwoody is a 2-lane road that feeds a major interstate (285). |
| 134 | Has the risk of losing OBE funding due to kids transferring to private school been considered? |
| 135 | If construction will be occurring while students are attending (at MES) how will they be kept safe? |
| 136 | Why is the capacity for high schools (Chamblee, Dunwoody, Cross Keys) 4600 total greater than the feeder middle school capacity? And when Sequoyah HS opens the total capacity → 6,700. |
| 137 | How can it cost more to expand one school (APES) than two schools? (In the scenerio of expanding Huntley Hills and Montgomery vs. Ashford Pk.) ...apparently, where the need lies? How does this make sense? |
| 138 | How much does school choice drive over capacity in some schools and restricting resources and programs in under-capacity schools? |
| 139 | No matter the size of the school, closing a school doesn’t solve a over capacity problem. Explain how this math works? |
| 140 | Where will the teachers go? |
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| 142 | When will the grade split occur? |
| 143 | How much was involved with the city data? |
| 144 | Are the enrollment numbers on these graphs including school choice students? |
| 145 | Why can't you build a second floor on top of Ashford Park? Also, why can't you annex the area near the trailers? |
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| 147 | How are you going to invest in the middle school? |
| 148 | How is Ashford Pk. suppose to attract good talent/staff and keep high retention rates with so much uncertainty. Our Teachers Matter! |
| 149 | |
| 150 | Are you looking at the School Choice Data? |
| 151 | Can we build on to Vanderlyn? |
| 152 | |
| 153 | Where are these projections coming from? Are you using Covid- Era numbers? |
| 154 | What is the enrollment cutoff for the "given schools that are too small to expand" and why is that a given? What is the decision based on? |
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| 156 | What is the ideal capacity at a school? 95% and above? |
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| 159 | Who is voting? |
| 160 | Why does DeKalb County School District follow a lot size guideline when Ashford Park has proven to be a successful model on a small lot? Why not use it as a model for other schools instead of requiring larger sites? |
| 161 | Why did the process not begin with an academic-first methodology analysis, with academic criteria and a student-focused (not real estate) first? |
| 162 | Taking 833 students and displacing them to 3 schools without capacity or making those schools expand so you expand 2 (maybe 3) schools vs 1 that cost then doubles + trans cost + attrition adds to that ballooning cost. |
| 163 | Tell me the business case behind these costs. Please do not respond with site feasibility study. |
| 164 | Why does DeKalb County School District follow a lot size guideline when Ashford Park has proven to be a successful model on a small lot? Why not use it as a model for other schools instead of requiring larger sites? |
| 165 | What is the status of the German immersion program? |
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| 167 | Why is Kittredge proposed to move south (where we already have Wadsworth), away from where the vast majority of students live (on the North Dekalb side), eliminating access? |
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| 169 | Can you share the calculation formula for assumed cost savings for building/expanding so many buildings? |
| 170 | Are new costs such as additional bus routes being considered? |
| 171 | Expansion without any of changes possible for Ashford Park ES |
| 172 | Didn't Dekalb buy property to build another school in Dunwoody and it was never built? |
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| 174 | Is there only one more round? |
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| 177 | If we are happy with trailers, why are we changing Ashford Park? |
| 178 | Will we see the proposed vision before it is voted on? |
| 179 | If the County does not have the funds to build addition to chestnut, How can you close VES saying that it is dependent on addition to Chestnut? |
| 180 | Why is the removal of the Chamblee Magnet program not included in change compilations? |
| 181 | What changed between scenario 1& 2 ? What data did you use from scenario 1 to 2? What will data will you use between scenarios 2 & 3? Will we see that data? Hard to trust what we are told. |
| 182 | If the decision is to close Vanderlyn, how far in advance would we know? |
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| 184 | The DHS Capacity will change with the opening of Sequoia. That is happening soon. Why does the cluster need more adjustment when the cluster will loose Hightower? |
| 185 | Why was Vanderly slated for closure over Kingston? |
| 186 | What process was used to determine enrollment projections? Concerns were raised that prior years enrollment data back to "covid years" were used and are underestimating enrollment projections, specifially in Dunwoody, as many Dunwoody cluster families left for private school when DCSD was offering virtual learning. |
| 187 | Does the COVID data still being included in the data skew the numbers? |
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| 189 | We only see "arrows". How many kids are going to eaach school? What are the numbers? |
| 190 | How is DeKalb defining under/over populated? |
| 191 | Where is the whole, cohesive plan to do everything? How will this work if schools such as Chestnut are not funded? |
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| 193 | How is this being funded? |
| 194 | Jow are you working to minimize number of moves for students with regards to phased closures etc.? |
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| 196 | What does "Ziffer answered" mean in the SAP Team answers column? |
| 197 | What is the plan to retain teachers and staff at schools slated to close? |
| 198 | When thinking about making schools K-8, are you picturing a 5 year old on a bus with 14/15 year olds? Is this safe? |
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| 200 | What is the rationale for converting APES into an Eary Learning Center, and how does moving students twice in two years serve their stability and your stated "goals" |
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| 202 | Why are we trusting this process with leadership that might not be here in 6-8 years? |
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| 204 | How has traffic pattern/congestion been taken into consideration? |
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| 206 | Do bigger schools actually mean bigger class sizes? |
| 207 | As schools consolidate, how do you plan to manage the influx of current and new students? |
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| 209 | Will DCSD create and hold meetings with the entire community explaining and walking through the finances of the schools including central office currently and how each and every possible scenario would also be affected financially—showing the gain and harm so we can make wise decisions?? |
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| 211 | Please provide the redistricting lines |
| 212 | What are the design requirements that go along with the data? |
| 213 | Are projected enrollment numbers taking into account people coming back to the district after covid? |
| 214 | Dunwoody Cluster: How are you defining a "highly-resourced" school? Why now? What is the urgency? |
| 215 | What school right now is highly-resourced? |
| 216 | Is it fiscally responsible to renovate the current Ashford Park facility and then close or repurpose it? |
| 217 | Can all this be done without financing from E-SPLOST? |
| 218 | How can vanderlyn be retrofitted to serve the needs of high school students? |
| 219 | What will happen to school choice students whose school is closed? |
| 220 | Who else has a Pre-K program? |
| 221 | HOW DOES THE PLAN TO MOVE CAPACITY TO OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY OVER CAPACITY EVEN WITH AN EXPANSION OF A BUILDING GENERATE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE ANTICIPATED STUDENT POPULATION? |
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| 223 | What are |
| 224 | If there is going to be all new data this summer, does that start the process over. |
| 225 | Please disclose contract and financial arrangements with DCSD and HPM. |
| 226 | For the Chamblee and Dunwoody has either PreK-5 or PreK-6 been considered as grade level divisions? |
| 227 | If larger schools are better why are they not all the top in the state. Is it cheaper to run a larger school? Where is the data? |
| 228 | Where will Vanderlyn kids go to school when it is closed? |
| 229 | Has there been closer examination of students in DCSD that do not live in DeKalb County. |
| 230 | Has Chesnut been considered as an expansion for Peachtree Middle? Could the Chesnut students be split into other underutilized elementaries? |
| 231 | Is Hightower staying in Dunwoody or moving to Sequoia? |
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| 233 | What kind of SAP-like process is DCSD undergoing to “right-size” central office employees and facilities to reflect the decline in student enrollments in the district over time? |
| 234 | Will students on School Choice who are not zoned for the school that they are enrolled, will they be removed to accommodate students who live in the zoned area? |
| 235 | Vanderlyn students don't fit if closed. We are risking creatibng a capacity issue, not resolving one (we are 81% capacity). Where do we fit and how do we not move twice? Why is DHS not on the expansion list or receiving funding? What improvements need to be made for VES to be used? Short-term closure in Dunwoody is reckless. Can we wait to close any schools until 1) 5th grad COVID kinder class moves out, we rassess capacities? 2) See Sequoyah numbers 3) Chesnut is expanded? |
| 236 | Why must school have 900 seats, not 600? |
| 237 | Are you reevaluate how Title 1 funds being used? |
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| 239 | How will the saved mney be used? |
| 240 | Is there a plan to build new elementary school where an old school was torn down on Chamblee Dunweoody Rd and North Shallowford? |
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| 242 | Can the DCSD consider a special advisory oversight committee to review the recommendations and decisions being made by the HPM? |
| 243 | Maintain current districted lines - strong communities help kiks - major childhood. Temporarily displace students at Ashford Park ES while building second story addition to accomodate the entire community/neighborhood. Disrupting 3 schools Huntley Hills, Montgomery, and Ashford Park to help the one school needing it is Ashford Park, just displace 1 of the schools to fix it. Pause proposed improvements and massive investments until they are determined to actually go towards the expansion. Why are we not discussing programs, boundaries, and buildings at the same time? They are all connected. Data is expired and old - how can we make proposals on bad data? How can parents trust this process? |
| 244 | Vanderlyn has capacity to take Kingsley (also distribute to DES) without construction or expansion. Vanderlyn has space for expansion without closing the school during construction. After Sequoyah HS is built, DHS expansion will not be needed leading to no need for Vanderlyn space. Why is Vanderlyn being closed? (Leave Vanderlyn open) |
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| 246 | HPM Expert Requested in room - Where is HPM collecting their data from? |
| 247 | Has APS been happy with HPM? Also, APS received their entire plan and all the data at once and shared it with the community. Why did DCSD receiving their stuff as piecemeal information? |
| 248 | Where is the date that states larger schools produce better academic than smaller schools. |
| 249 | Woodard has 31 acres. Why can't you build another school |
| 250 | Literacy academy in each cluster - this will attract families back to DCSD who left for dyslexia, etc. remediation. This provides access and opportunity for all learners. Big dream but not NYC did it! |
| 251 | Woudl students be able to switch from Dunwoody to Sequoyah in the middle of their HS career? |
| 252 | Would th redistricting also impact MS as well due to capacity concerns? |
| 253 | Where is the data that shows larger schools are |
| 254 | Leopold from HPM say they are not educational consultants, why don't we take a strategic pause and consult some? |
| 255 | We want small schools!!! This makes DeKalb unique. If you turn DeKalb into a district of Mega Schools, parents will move elsewhere because neighboring counties have mega schools with cheaper housing. |
| 256 | Has anyone done a traffic analysis if we were to move more students. To Montgomery ES? How will you plan transportation to 3 different elementary schools from Ashford Park? |
| 257 | How can stakeholders trust this process when the people making decisions might not even be in place next next year, election cycle/interim superintendent? |
| 258 | What does it mean to be too small to expand? Brookhaven was able to build a new city hall between two major roads along an active railway. It's hard to imagine a seven acre lot is not buildable. |
| 259 | Kingsley PAC members expressed a desire to close and move to the expanded Chestnut ES. Why is this not the top priority? |
| 260 | Successful Magnet schools like Kitteridge (#1 in the state) should not be broken up or significantly relocated away from current heat maps, if the the problem is the waitlist, raise the minimum Map score to get in. |
| 261 | How can we trust a company with very negative history of success and hired by a criminal superintendent? |
| 262 | Increasing enrollment rates at high performing schools (APES). Pk-3 - not good data with educational outcomes APES is not decreasing in size. This is our community-you are frustrating the community. Is this considered at all? Traffic pattern? Why did you split us up like this - seems to decrease our ability to give feedback as a group? |
| 263 | Where does the data come from based on birth rate? |
| 264 | What is the proposed data for round 3? Will we receive any data at that time? |
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| 266 | Can you please share the complete cluster plan including the high school explansion plan? |
| 267 | Why are we not doing a more obvious solution for the Dunwoody cluster? Instead of closing elementary schools, why are we not building on expanding DHS or even building another HS? Addressing issues w/middle school would prevent people families from moving away or going to private schools. Elementary schools like VES are not built for the size of HS kids. Dunwoody wants to see real changes that make sense for us not administration. |
| 268 | Kittredge Magnet School needs to remain where students can reach it. Relocating eliminates the access for the families? |
| 269 | What is the status of the "Kroger" building DCSD purchased for office space? Can we sell it and get the money? We don't need any more district office people |
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| 272 | When Ashford Park and Montgomery close down, where does those students go? What is the 15 year plan? Does it account for population growth? |
| 273 | Will the capital funding needed for the improvements be secured before moves are made? |
| 274 | Who will cover the cost? Dunwoody? |
| 275 | Are under-enrolled schools being under-utilized because of perception of lack of programs (STEM, AP, Gifted, etx |
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| 283 | If the plan is to optimize school sizes for learning, Dekalb should address concerns about class sizes by niot seeking state waiver when it is up for reneal and makenung commitment to maximize school sizes? |
| 284 | Fair access means keeping Kittredge where students can reach it and ensuring 4-12 continuity throught magnet program at Chamblee MS and Chamblee HS |
| 285 | Where do PK-3 Montgomery students go in this current plan? We want to keep Montgomery community intact to minize familial impact and number of buildings per family. |
| 286 | Conflict of Interest policies need to be put in place, given DCSD past record. |
| 287 | Kittredge should stay where it is and stay on the Chamblee MS and Chamblee HS track. |
| 288 | Redistrict students and spend money to fix and expand current schools. |
| 289 | It has be said that the consulting company helping with the school redistricting also has the construction contract. Is this factual? This is not ethical for DCSD to allow. |
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| 292 | Where did the school size goal come from? Why are campus sizes needed to be so generous. Why is Ashford Park not a lock for rebuilding or expansion. |
| 293 | Program placement needs to be released in phase 3 with boundaries for holistic feedback. |
| 294 | 8 years from now where does APES k-3 students go? Share the 15 year plan not just 1-3 years. |
| 295 | In 2016 a plan was createsd to expand the high school by adding a 3rd floor or changing the auditiorium. Can we revisit that? What other options have been proposed using part of Vandelyn's property to expand the high school without closing the elementary school? |
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| 297 | Examine bias in project management in goal of 900+ student schools instead of 450-600 student facilities that meet funnding needs and educational goals (4 classes per grade) that are workable with existsting facilities. |
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| 302 | Round 2 Scenario has conflicting info for Vanderlyn nstudents if the school closes. In one place it says Dunwoody and Austin. In another place it says Dunwoody, Austin and Kingsley. There is a clear discrepancy. |
| 303 | Is there a cluster specific narrative that explains the changes from phase 1 to phase 2? |
| 304 | Can you publish the list of all schools in DCSD that, according to your definition, are already "highly-resourced?" |
| 305 | In the Dunwoody cluster, how many students at each school are there who are not zoned to attend there? |
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| 307 | Relocating Kittredge eliminates access for the families it serves. Keep Kittreedge in it's current location so that students can continue going to CMS and CHS. |
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| 312 | If Ashford Park is repurposed will it become another school like Coralwood? |
| 313 | Why can't AShford Park become Kittredge Magnet School |
| 314 | Can we see the data that shows Ashford Park enrollment declining by 2030? |
| 315 | Can we see the data that shows the size of Ashford Park? |
| 316 | Why aren't we building more elementry schools? |
| 317 | What are the student outcomes being prioritized in this plan? |
| 318 | What is the desired school capacity? Share the details. |
| 319 | Why not expand APES versus splitting into 4 different schools? |
| 320 | How will Senate Bill 182 impact this plan? |
| 321 | Has a physcologist been enagaged to access how these changes will impact students? |
| 322 | For each scenario, tell us: the number of empty seats, the cost and if DCSD can afford it, the number of underutilized buildings, the number of over crowed buildings and trailers, what a full & vibrant learning environment is, and how the district will change it's teacher allocation methods. |
Lithonia - March 26
Questions
| 1 | How many schools is this cluster is not meeting the school enrollment? State capacity enrollment? |
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| 2 | A parent has a question about E. L. Bouie And why it's not on the map |
| 3 | Have we talked about why our schools are not achieving? |
| 4 | Why are we not considering closing any other school other than Redan ES? |
| 5 | What does capital improvement mean and look like for the schools |
| 6 | If we bring DECA to Redan, how will that help capacity? |
| 7 | What is the enrollment for Lithonia HS? |
| 8 | Can we move Lithonia to Miller Grove? |
| 9 | Retention is the issue? What are we doing to assist in retention of students to the District? |
| 10 | Can we look at the academic success rate of the schools considered being closed? |
| 11 | Can we look at schools that offer special services? Before blending? |
| 12 | How did we decide who is going to Redan HS and Miller Grove HS? |
| 13 | Why can we not pour resources into Redan ES similar to Druid Hills? |
| 14 | Can we make all elementary theme schools K-8? |
| 15 | Can we move DECA into another school? |
| 16 | Why is Elizabeth Andrews an available option? |
| 17 | If you move DECA to Redan HS, will this count towards Redan's graduation rate? |
| 18 | Would block schedules work better for academic performance? |
| 19 | If we close Redan hS, can it be repurposed as a special needs certain for all students in that community? Similar to Warren Tech? |
McNair - March 30
Questions
| 1 | When looking at the heat map, is it showing all children who live in the attendance area along with private school children and homeschool children |
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| 2 | What metrics were used to determine minor fixture replacements versus capital improvements |
| 3 | What capital improvement projects are happening to McNair HS |
| 4 | What is the cost aviodance for Scenario 1 vs. Scenario 2 |
| 5 | What are the capital improvement plans for McNair HS |
| 6 | Where is the data to reflect the decline in enrollment? |
| 7 | Has there been any discussion about safety concerns blending grades 6-12? Seniors having access to 6th graders. |
| 8 | How will the students be split up by grade level for combined grades? |
| 9 | What will the class size be when both elementary schools be combined? |
| 10 | Has there been any consideration to not close Cedar Grove Schools that are set already to close-Elementary, Middle and High? |
| 11 | How were the capacities determined for the schools? Where did the data come from? |
| 12 | Has there been any considerations about age differences and maturity concerns mixing students? |
| 13 | If schools are closed and students have to attend different schools outside of their current neighborhoods, what happens to the families in those neighborhood? Do they relocate? |
| 14 | Given the areas affected, has their been any considerations around "neighborhood conflicts" that can occurs mixing students from different areas? |
| 15 | Has there been any consideration to the following scenarios-1 building for PK-2, 1 building for grades 3-5th, 1 building for 6-8, and 1 building for 9-12? |
| 16 | If schools are closed will there be equity across the district for STEM and extracurricular programs? |
| 17 | Has their been thoughts around the maturity concerns and will there be any classes or training to help the students adjust? |
| 18 | Has there been consideration in the scenarios of creating a K-7 and 8-12 cluster schools? |
| 19 | Can the money be used to build stadiums for each high school during the proposed closures? |
| 20 | Has consideration been discussed about the impact of moving smaller elementary schools into larger schools on students? |
| 21 | Have we considered saf |
| 22 | What will a 6-12 configuration look like at McNair HS? Will there be structural changes to the building |
| 23 | What guarantees are in place to preserve the academic culture at those high-perfomer schools after closure? |
| 24 | What considerations have been explored to compare the outcomes of redistributing successful programs instead of replicating them? |
| 25 | Has any thought been given to K-8 school scenario? |
| 26 | What if anything has been considered as it relates to the ever-evolving Dekalb population. There are new developments, new apartments, etc..but is the goal to close and consolidate? |
| 27 | Given current academic programs provided at schools like Spanish Immersion, Magnet Programs, STEM. Parents must apply for student entry and when you consolidate schools that may or may not have the same academic rigor, scholars are at a disadvantage? Assessment fatigue is at an all time high.Has there been consideration for perhaps approaching this from a tiered approach. |
| 28 | What is the enrollment of each grade level so that we know the capacity of schools as we move forward |
| 29 | The same process added to change and expand Druid Hills-Has the same process been considered to expand schools in South Dekalb County? |
| 30 | Keep Cedar Grove Open. Has there been consideration for a K-7 and 8-12 model? |
| 31 | Where is the data to support these scenarios? |
| 32 | Why did the district not monitor and address decline in student population when decreases were first noticed? Why now? |
| 33 | With combining schools, will students have equal access to resources across the entire district? |
| 34 | Has there been consideration about rebudgetting the money to go towards resources and different curriculum so students stop try to leave regular schools? |
| 35 | Has there been consideration about the businesses aound and near that schools that might be affected, which can in turn affect the community? |
| 36 | Has there been budget concerns about possibly saving money but we will spend just as much bussing students out further? |
| 37 | Has there been consideration to split up schools at only the schools with low enrollment and feed them into other schools? |
| 38 | Will the quality of education follow thru with consolidation? |
| 39 | In considering this 6-12 scenario have buses, safety, and social emotional well being be considered? |
| 40 | How are we best serving the needs of the students academic performance and other needs with these changes? |
| 41 | Community is based on home, churches, and schools. Are there transportation concerns being concerned for sports and activities? |
| 42 | Why can't we have specialized programs with existing schools like Arabia and SWD? |
| 43 | Has there been consideration for the social emotional awareness of the students and parents that going through the SAP Process? |
| 44 | Have there been consideration about repurposing unused facilities for community and recreational centers for those areas that need it? |
| 45 | Have we considered matching resources from the North side to the schools on the South side? We want the same things for our schools. |
| 46 | Why did we have to spend more money having a company come and assess our situation when we have plenty of people in the seats that could have done this work? |
| 47 | Is there an established target that the district is trying to save with all these changes? |
| 48 | What happens to the E-SPLOTS money that was supposed to be utilized in the southside of DeKalb if these schools are closed? How is that funding equally distributed? |
| 49 | Will the district consider bringing back paraprofessionals to help with the classes if schools are consolidated? |
| 50 | How did N. Druid HS get $14 million? if Cedar Grove ES need to expand it won't cost as much. |
| 51 | Why are we not investigating why parents are choosing private schools, charter schools, and/or home school instead of sending their children to DCSD because there are enough school age children in DeKalb to fill some of these schools? |
Virtual Staff Meetings
March 23
Questions
| 1 | I didn't hear any mention of Evansdale Elem. |
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| 2 | Evansdale is still currently being proposed as a closure or repurposing, as it was in Round 1 |
| 3 | I saw that in round one, however, where is the breakdown of what cluster Evansdale will belong? |
| 4 | How were the schools selected from scenario 1 to scenario 2 |
| 5 | Was it based on enrollment, academics,etc |
| 6 | Why is the time not suitable for staff to attend these? 7 am is reporting time |
| 7 | Would there be consideration for PK-2,3-5, 6-8, 9-12 grade clusters? |
| 8 | If a facility is said to need an adequate facility (ie., DECA), what does that look like? Taking over a building that you close? New building? part of an existing building? |
| 9 | How does the closures effect the programs like DLI, that currently go through the middle/high schools? |
| 10 | Is there any consideration of a 7th gr -9th gr model? Jr. high. Essentially, getting 9th grade out of high school - so that 10th is focused more on graduation |
| 11 | Could you explain why Brockett ES is not listed on the heat map for Area 2? |
| 12 | Will any of the schools/school properties that are closed be sold to private developers? |
| 13 | Would there be consideration for PK-2,3-5, 6-8, 9-12 grade clusters? |
March 25
Questions
| 1 | Will there be multiple specials teachers at these new or expanded schools. For example, if there are 1,000+ students will you add on another art teacher and music teacher for schools that are closing. What about our DLI teachers? |
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| 2 | So we are expected to wait in limbo to find out we might not have a job? |
| 3 | I might have missed it. Please explain how Columbia Middle might be impacted. |
| 4 | Why is the Evansdale neighborhood going to be split to where half our students will eventually go to Tucker High School and Lakeside High School? Have you even thought about transportation? |
| 5 | We have a shortage of bus drivers who have to take multiple loads of kids to the apartment complex across the street. Sometimes they have to come back three times. How do you expect to transport these students to Pleasantdale or Livsey if we can't currently get kids home in a timely manner. |
| 6 | Could you please share what plans are in place for auxiliary staff as well? Specifically, I’m interested in how the retention strategy addresses roles such as bookkeepers, administrative professionals, and other support personnel who are essential to daily operations. |
| 7 | As a person who lost their community school as an 11 year old , has there been any thought given to community integration support to ease this kind of move. |
| 8 | Evansdale has a waiting list for our DLI program. Why don't you allow more students to enter our DLI program to increase our enrollment? |
| 9 | Why are we even continuing this SAP process that Horton started? |
| 10 | How are you going to earn the trust back with teachers and stakeholders? |
| 11 | A lot of the data from HPM is not accurate! |
| 12 | In the plan, I see that ELC at Terry Mill will move to McNair DLA. What school or site will McNair DLA scholars transition to? |
| 13 | We have a ton of land(lower field) that could have another building! |
| 14 | Not to be redundant but you are incorrect that our DLI classes are at capacity. Most of our DLI classes are MUCH smaller than the gen ed classrooms. |
April 1
Questions
| 1 | This is very location specific question. In this scenario, what will happen to the redundancy positions (Library staff, custodians, bookeeper, nurse, cafeteria staff, etc.) at the Nancy Creek location, now Cary Reynolds, that will not follow the students to Dresden Elementary? Will they stay with the building as a swing location? |
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| 2 | Is the timeline still 6-8 years from now? How soon are we talking? |
| 3 | how does school choice work with this process |
| 4 | In regards to resources, I work at a high enrollment school (830 kids), we are lacking resources (psychologist is shared and slp is virtual) How will you guarantee making other schools larger will allow them to have enough staff if we don’t now. Also paras are few and far between |
| 5 | For Ashford Park, an in-person meeting at 3pm would be helpful. |
| 6 | What rationale was used to choose PreK-3 for a possible solution for Ashford Park? We have a third grade class plus all specials outside our building now. I thought the goal was to be able to do away with our trailers/Modulars. What’s the point of changing our whole school and still end up with trailers? |
| 7 | Can the school-specific meetings be at times when all staff is available to attend? We have kids from 7:20-3pm so if its during the school day, we will not be able to attend which is discouraging if the meeting is during school hours. |
| 8 | Not in terms of rivalries , but in terms of numbers. How do you decide who gets to play? |
| 9 | Will Ignite candidates be prioritized above veteran teachers? I have experienceed this during the transfer process this year. It's very discouraging. |
| 10 | When there is a school-specific meeting for Ashford Park ES, can teachers and staff be included in those in addition to families? |
| 11 | What about consolidation of sports teams? |
| 12 | For schools that are changing grade bands, will there be a construction phase for adapting those buildings to accommodate the new age groups? For example, if a middle school is becoming an elementary school, will there be a point where the school is closed to make the necessary changes to the building to accommodate elementary students? |
| 13 | Will we have to interview for the new position? |
| 14 | Ashford Park teacher here! Thanks for listening to our feedback and making this virtual meeting at a time that we are able to attend. My questions are as follows: 1. Are there any updates on our school's renovation & possible pause on the renovation? A possible pause was mentioned at the last person scenario 2 meeting but would love an update on this! 2. Do you have a better timeline for the feasibility of APES? 3. Have you all determined when scenario 3 will roll out? |
| 15 | This is very location specific question. In this scenario, what will happen to the redundancy positions (Library staff, custodians, bookeeper, nurse, cafeteria staff, etc.) at the Nancy Creek location, now Cary Reynolds, that will not follow the students to Dresden Elementary? Will they stay with the building as a swing location? |
| 16 | Nothing has really been mentioned about our speciality programs (e.g. High Achievers Magnet, DLI, STEM/STEAM) which I was understanding that the goal is to increase access and equity to these offerings while dealing with empty seats. When will these programs (which truly sets DeKalb apart from our neighbors) be addressed? |
| 17 | Have there been building walk-throughs to determine which ones will be suitable for the various programs? |
| 18 | Can you please clarify.. when saying staff “moves with the students”, are you saying that we would physically move to whatever school our current student body/ community gets moved to (if our school is closing). |
| 19 | Part of the uncertainty in our futures can come from the uneasiness of being split apart from the staff, students, and families we have worked to build at our current schools. |
| 20 | I may have missed the conversation, but are class sizes(class size being too large) being thought about if schools are being consolidated? |
Round 1 Scenarios Feedback
Round 1 Scenarios - Concluded March 8th
Final Report: SAP Survey Round 1 Scenario
Community Meetings and Feedback
Below are recordings from four virtual meetings and four in-person sessions for your review.
- February 23rd Meetings
- February 24th Meetings
- February 25th Meetings
- February 26th Meetings
- Feedback Staff Webinar
February 23rd Meetings
AIC
In Person Questions
| 1 | The public didn't get a chance to speak. |
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| 2 | How long has the district known about this and will the district be fair. I really dont think so I am real worried that the district will let these kids down. Yours truly Mr johnny Roberts. |
| 3 | Why is Princeton ES the ONLY school in the county that feeds two separate clusters - Lithonia & Stephenson. My address has not changed. However in 30 years my kids have been zoned for 3 different HS clusters. Frustrating is an understatement. |
| 4 | When will specific reasons for closing Ashford Park elementary school be provided? |
| 5 | What is the plan for schools that are closed? Is there a plan for security and maintenance? I am concerned that they will become an eyesore and impact the neighborhood negatively. |
| 6 | Selling a closed school is not listed as a possible scenario. Is it a possibility and what could be factors in making this decision? If it is a possibility it should be listed - which could lead to development and higher enrollment. What happens then? |
| 7 | What criteria was used to determine Live-In Enrollment for "future" attendance years? |
| 8 | What is the Stoneview elementary scenario?? Stoneview elementary enrollment is 870+ students this schools year with capacity at 700! With substantial residential development!!! There are 4 suburbs actively being developed in the cluster!! Stoneview needs the innovation that Dekalb schools mission! What does the City of Lithonia SAP reports??? |
| 9 | Why not provide HS school consolidation scenarios since only two are slated for closure? |
| 10 | You say the emrollment is down due to birth rates. If that is truly the case why are some schools north of Hwy-78 where you are proposing to expand schools due to over crowding. Are their birth rates not the same. If so could the difference be that that are more amenities and school performance that are attracting young families. Can you attract those young families backvto low enrollment areas? |
| 11 | Communities have yet to recover from the redistricting that took place over 10 years. Specifically the Peachcrest community experienced with now has potential scenarios of 5-6 more schools. Give an example of what repurposing schools in scenario areas. |
| 12 | What happens to employees in closed or population "shift" schools? |
| 13 | What are the scenarios for repurposing schools.? Are the firms you are working with have the expertise to repurpose schools? |
| 14 | Why would we not consider a potential full building expansion for Lithonia High since they are currently at roughly 99% enrollment, obviously their capacity supports enrollment |
| 15 | What is wrong with smaller.class rooms? Wouldn't that allow for better instructions by teachers thus improved educatioral outcomes. |
| 16 | Do the scenarios capture building permits and projects planned but not started? |
| 17 | 6-12 does not adequately address developmental and social and emotional needs of students at such a younger age. During a time when the transition could be more damaging emotionally. Mental Health awareness is becoming more prevalent are we truly considering the lasting effect both academically and social and emotionally? |
| 18 | Did projected enrollment factor in approved or proposed development such as Lullah Hills in N Druid Hills HS cluster? |
| 19 | Why should we trust the BOE to get this right? |
| 20 | Please provide printable PDF of scenarios map!!!!! |
| 21 | Since APS also used this vendor for their evaluation process, what surprises/learnings there have been applied to DCSD process? |
| 22 | What is the anticipated first year rollout? |
| 23 | Is there concern about teacher flight ahead of rollout? |
| 24 | One of the slides talks about distance to "student centers" as a criteria for consideration. How is a student center defined and who is determining these locations throughout the district? |
| 25 | What was the initial criteria for how school closings were chosen? Was this criteria weighted ( like first, second, third, etc )? Can the public see the same data that HPM & and the SAP TEAM reviewed and had access to? |
| 26 | One of the largest impacts of student performance is overcrowding schools. Overcrowded schools harm student performances drastically. How are you addressing the actual quality of the education when you will be consolidating these class rooms |
| 27 | Is CTAE a consideration? If so, how? |
| 28 | What do the next iterations look like? Meaning, what will be after Buildings and so on? |
| 29 | -No School Cluster circled -We have not received our contracts yet. Does that have anything to do with this process? -If teachers are reassigned will the teachers have a say in where they want to work ex. high school teachers staying in high school grade band. |
| 30 | For community engagement the q and a seems to very sterile. To hear from the community you need to hear voices |
| 31 | I am curious if traffic flow has been considered as buildings close and others shoulder larger enrollments. |
| 32 | What was the data gathered for the forecasted enrollment numbers? Is this data available to the public? |
| 33 | How are you connecting with communities? What social media sites are you using? How far in advance are you providing notification about these meetings? What data are you using for future projections as the community are growing? |
| 34 | How can the community provide meaningful feedback on the potential closing of a specific school by March 8 when you have not given us information about that specific school and the rationale for closing that specific school, such as Ashford Park Elementary School? |
| 35 | Can you give a more specific timeline for WHEN we will know whether or not our children will be redistricted into another different school? How much lead time will parents have? |
| 36 | Do we have any projections on what impacts these updates will have to graduation and crime rates as 40,000 students are uprooted? |
| 37 | The Board of Education ultimately makes the decision based on SAP recs. Who is going to determine the rollout of closures for this 6-8 years process? It's not very reassuring (at this time) to NOT have a visible runway for some of these schools on the chopping block. |
| 38 | Will the district publish participation data from these sessions disaggregated by cluster to ensure that data and engagement are geographically balance? |
| 39 | Are there any examples of a redistribution plan this aggressive being executed successfully in the United States in the past 20 years? What were the impacts to graduation and crime rates of those redistribution plans? |
| 40 | For the Tucker cluster please provide the number of acres that Midvale, Idlewood, Brockett, and Livsey currently sit on. In addition, what is the projected number of elementary students in the Tucker cluster that was used to make this initial decision? |
| 41 | How does the school district plan to utilize the federal funds allocated from the EPA regarding lead exposure in schools during this process? |
| 42 | With the timeline for buildings phase (recommendations to BOE end of 2026), and changes happening in 2027, will schools requiring expansions 1) be expected/dependent on the next ESPLOST funding approval? 2) expansion happens before students move? Boundaries and programs may impact future building needs and be premature or decision not being made holistically. |
| 43 | How does this plan reduce traffic from cars and busses when schools become further away from more students, because there are fewer schools? |
| 44 | Instead of closing some of the schools, why not turn them into schools that offers trades. Many high-school students are in need of a non traditional high-school education. Also, an elementary school could be a designated space to teach high-school children how to drive. I think we should think outside of the box. |
| 45 | Is there any opportunity to shift this conversation from money to the children and their experiences? If there is enough money to execute this much construction in such a short period of time, I question how much of this prudence is necessary. |
| 46 | Scott Leopold mentioned that more information about the reasons for closing specific schools will be released by tomorrow. Where and how will that information be released? |
| 47 | Please address what could or would happen with the hiring of a new superintendent within the next few years. |
| 48 | Can we change the format of this meeting? It isn’t very engaging and I do not feel heard. Can we not waste time broadcasting the SAP video at the beginning? We’ve all seen the materials, that is why we are here, it is a waste of our time. |
| 49 | How can we slow down the execution, from 8 years to 16 years, to limit the disruption to our students and our community? How can we meet halfway so that our communities are not damaged because 6-8 years is not enough time to uproot students in 25+ schools. |
| 50 | Where are the most enrolled areas in the Dekalb County? Is it possible to eliminate middle school altogether and go back to the old way? |
| 51 | Will there be time for people to share their experience and testimony in regards to redistricting? |
| 52 | Once a school is closed, there will be a lapse in time where the schools will be unoccupied. During that time are there security and maintenance measures set in place? |
| 53 | Is there any input from teachers? |
| 54 | What is the district’s research basis for consolidating or expanding enrollment into larger high school models when some campuses were originally designed to function as smaller community-based high schools? What evidence shows larger consolidated campuses improve academic outcomes for similar student populations? |
| 55 | When two high school facilities fall within one percentage point of educational adequacy, how did the district determine that one is meaningfully more suitable for consolidation or expansion than the other? |
| 56 | If the current Facility Condition Assessment scores, including five-year capital projections, are stronger at a campus being considered for repurposing, how is the district balancing building condition versus educational adequacy and utilization in its decision-making framework? |
| 57 | If building decisions directly change student enrollment patterns, school climate, and instructional environments, how is the district ensuring that academic impact is formally analyzed alongside facility data? |
| 58 | Can you add the scenarios to the dashboard? |
| 59 | What considerations are being made for capital improvement projects that could bring facilities into greater educational adequacy, particularly in cases where buildings may not have received upgrades over time through no fault of the school community? |
Virtual
Virtual Questions
| 1 | What are all the reasons you are considering closing Ashford Park Elementary School? Where will the APES kids go to elementary school if APES closes? What will be done with the APES building after it closes? Where will the teachers, principal, and staff go after APES closes? |
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| 2 | Should participants be hearing jazz music right now? Or is someone speaking? |
| 3 | If Ashford Park Elementary school closes, to which cluster will the APES kids go (in addition to the new elementary school)? Will they stay in the Chamblee Cluster, will they go to the Cross Keys cluster, New Sequoyah cluster, etc.... |
| 4 | Has the HPM Group ever spoken to any family members in the Ashford Park Elementary school region/district? If not, why not since the Ashford Park Elementary families are so close, well informed, and opinionated? |
| 5 | Your poewr point presentation focus on underutilization and low enrollment in schools. Ashford Park Elementary is over enrolled. Please explain why you are considering closing an over enrolled school when your alleged focus is to remedy underutilized schools? |
| 6 | How can we provide any meaninful feedback when you do not provide all relevant information as to why you want to close Ashford Park Elementary? |
| 7 | How were the 150- members of the committee/board chosen? And are those members equally representative of the entire district, particularly South Dekalb |
| 8 | I don’t believe the timeline of 6-8 years is reasonable (too short). What research has been done to show that engineering, architect, & construction firms are available to complete these projects within the timeline? |
| 9 | What is your ideal capacity for a Pk-5 school? |
| 10 | How is future enrollment in 2030 determined, Where is the data coming from and how can we review it? |
| 11 | Can someone please tell me what region I am in? My son goes to Brockett. |
| 12 | What work has been done to add grades to ES to supplement attendance, ie 6th/7th/8th? I don’t believe the large population MS are very effective or supportive in DeKalb. |
| 13 | Can you please keep the slides in synch with the speaker for the powre point presenation? |
| 14 | This is an observation for the committee to consider. It seems that all schools identified for expansion are in the north part of the county. The proposed plan will close and not expand schools in the south part of the county. |
| 15 | If enrollment is the primary factor being considered, has the district evaluated the educational impact on students, especially given that some smaller schools like Vanderlyn have strong academic performance while larger, more highly enrolled schools do not perform as well? How is student outcome being weighed alongside funding considerations in these decisions? |
| 16 | Will these slides be made available to attendees and/or stakeholders who are not present? |
| 17 | What happens when schools that are consolidated to one are schools on two different levels? Perhaps one school is on a CSIP. What does that dynamic look like? |
| 18 | What happens when schools that are consolidated to one are schools on two different levels? Perhaps one school is on a CSIP. What does that dynamic look like? |
| 19 | Are PK-3 programs funded by the GA Lottery, similar to PK-4? or do local property taxes pay for PK-#? |
| 20 | I have already provided limited feedback since the roll out of the first scenario was llimited in information. How can I provide additional feedback as I learn more about the closure reasons? |
| 21 | Yes, I have tried to look up a map of the regions and I could not find one. My twins go to Briar Vista Elementary, so what region am I in? And could I please see this map- that would be more helpful |
| 22 | is the data used to make these determinations made public? |
| 23 | I find it interesting that the quality of education was not at all addressed in the 20 minute video. Vanderlyn is highly rated educationally, but this was not considered. |
| 24 | what would happen to students in CGES |
| 25 | For schools that will ultimately be closed, what will happen to those buildings? I recall the website showing 5 possibilities, none of which included selling the properties. How will the county save money, or be able to divert money to the schools being expanded, if the county is still paying to maintain the buildings of closed schools? |
| 26 | How are you ensuring that underserved communities are being reached beyond translation services? |
| 27 | so repurpose or closing of all buildings will be determined beforehand? or is this something not discussed till after? |
| 28 | When is academic performance incorporated and what are the KPIs reviewed in that phase? |
| 29 | It was stated that larger schools subsidize smaller enrollment schools. This is inaccurate. Schools don't subsidize other schools. Taxpayers fund and pay for schools. |
| 30 | I agree closures and consolidations seem focused on the south only. I hope to see future scenarios with the opposite considered |
| 31 | is conversion of schools to handle more students completed before transition? In other words no need to trailers parked in lots and grass to handle capacity bc from what we have seen we do not understand how livsey can handle all the incoming students considering tthey use trailers today |
| 32 | What is the ideal size for a PK-8 school? |
| 33 | I am seeing other questions from other people being answered. Will any of my questions be answered? |
| 34 | What is the total cost of the reconfiguration (renovations, staffing, transportation, etc.)? |
| 35 | Are mobile classrooms/quads/trailers considered in the current numbers for building capacity data or is it strictly the brick & mortar classrooms within the building that can seat students? Thanks. |
| 36 | How does projected staffing compare to enrollement? Is there a surplus that would require reallocation or a shortfall or just the right amount? |
| 37 | When you say the target audience is 600-650 for elementary, is that mininum or maximum? |
| 38 | Do the grade bands have to be implemented system wide or could different clusters have different setups? |
| 39 | Distance from schools was not addressed in the video. This affects transportation costs. |
| 40 | does conversion and expansion mean more trailers? |
| 41 | I'm also especially interested in understanding how student safety and developmental differences will be addressed (in the 6-12 environment example). If you could share more about what safeguards you're looking into a part of this process, that would be great. |
| 42 | In the Tucker scenarios, closing Midvale and Brockett and (what seems to be) consodlidating those students into Livesy, the Livesy building would require a massive expansion, likely tear down rebuild. What would the logistics of something like this look like? |
| 43 | Were traffic patterns of the city taken into consideration? |
| 44 | Are you working with local municipalities on how these changes will affect local traffic? Bigger elementary schools can make difficult drop off/pick up and massive traffic back ups like what's seen at Smoke Rise |
| 45 | what will happen with happen with the pricicpal id the school closes and the teachers ? |
| 46 | When buildings are closed, will faculty and staff lose jobs due to lack of available positions? |
| 47 | The value of neighborhood schools was also not addressed in the video or building community. The plan needs alot more work and needs to greatly expand scope of input. |
| 48 | I love the considerations for furthering early childhood education! We benefited from Coralwood School, which has a feeder partnership with Hawthorne Elementary, which is considered for expansion. Can we ensure that co-taught, inclusive model continues at Hawthorne Elementary? This is a great, supportive model and partnership for our county and community! |
| 49 | So quick question.. will the students be getting more clubs/activities? I have been seeing a Sophomore at Lithonia suggesting to add Skateboarding Clubs as a solution for Elementary-Middle Scholars and he also has a format on stand by for y’all’s answers |
| 50 | Can you share a table of the attributes in consideration by school? |
| 51 | why are you closing Robert shaw Theme school? why schools that are underperforming are not the one closing rather than well performing schools? |
| 52 | As a parent with a student who attends an elementary school with theoretical capacity that has increased from 750 to over 900 (in the same building) I wonder if HPM and DCSD are considering the additional challenges associated with managing and moving, let alone educating, this large number of young children? Would DCSD consider a logistics manager to assist principals? |
| 53 | What is your plan for the administrators, teachers and staff of schools that are closed or consolidated? Will they maintain positions with the district or be layed off? |
| 54 | Were school buildings toured by DCSD and HPM to realistically judge on how to expand? |
| 55 | With school closures, how do you plan to handle transportation needs? We appear to be short bus drivers and buses. |
| 56 | This seems like a very large and expensive restructuring. Did DCSD consider evaluating this in a smaller area where buildings are very underutilized and underenrolled before rolling out to the district at large? |
| 57 | What is the estimated investment of consolidating schools vs. the expense of adding on? |
| 58 | Scott's Lakeside Example: Could it be 4 at 650 verse 3 at 800? The fear I have is now you have an art program serving 800 students instead of 400 - in this example do you plan to have two art teachers at the 800 mega seat school? Seems there is a happy compromise to get the dollars at 450 students, but to NOT go too big, which would destroy many of the Lakeside cluster communities and neighborhoods. |
| 59 | Scott is talking about consolidating small ES in the Lakeside cluster. But with boundaries to be redrawn with the addition of 1800 new HS (Sequoyah, CKHS addition), isn't it a bit risky to talk about consolidating within a cluster? |
| 60 | My question is should capacity be the primary criteria for making educational decisions? |
| 61 | when will there be a cost estimate for the expansion costs in a scenario? Don't we need to know if a scenario is affordable? Adding capacity at 11 old, small ES (as shown in this initial scenario) has got to be very costly. |
| 62 | Can you provide the extract of all of the enrollment data? There used to be charts with all the schools posted, the dashboard let's you look by school, but at a cluster or county level holistacally. That would be helfpul if we could get the entire data set in the dashboard in an Excel extract (or in PDF table like it once was provided). |
| 63 | Has HPM also prepared a proposal for 4 600-seat elementary schools per high school? |
| 64 | Were pandemic-era regression inputs weighted in a way that distorts post-2023 growth trends? |
| 65 | When increasing capacity of schools, will this affect class sizes also? |
| 66 | When buildings are identified for closure in the finalized scenario, how will DCSD ensure that children continue to receive a quality education during the interim with closure looming (ie: needed interim investments, retaining teachers, etc.)? |
| 67 | I appreciate that you cannot or are unwilling to answer my SPECIFIC questions about Ashford Park Elementary School. And I understand that you know that these are "emotionally" charged topics. But you are not helping to alleviate the emotions when you do not provide specific answers to specific questions about specific schools such as Ashford Park Elementary. This Q&A process is frustrating and has not provided any meaningful information for me or my neighbors so that we can provide any meaningful feedback other than "do not close my school" and "I am upset." |
| 68 | I dont have children so not sure if the enrollment of kids has to do with housing options and demographics for the changing enrollment landscape so i guess there is data to see what is causing the change but i am required ti pay taxes that support a school will that requirment go away if there is no school l in my direct neighborhood. Also given all the coprorations that now own housing in neighboorhoods are their tax break creating this issue also, i guess my question are they exempt from paying property taxes because that are not single owners who are forced to pay property taxes that support school funding |
| 69 | How has transportation and traffic flow been measured against the pick for elementary school closures in the central area? Schools that cross four-lanes of traffic are not on the closure lists, but schools that have had roadway improvements to accommodate the walkability to school are on the list. Also, elementary schools that have lower capacity are not on the list for closure, but are on the list of expansion. Have budget plans been released or taken into consideration for closure vs. expansion costs? |
| 70 | Scott Leopold said "an ideal elementary school is about 800 students" So why would APES be considered for closing when it's around 880 students today and should stay above 800 for the foreseeable future? |
| 71 | In developing communication materials, could DCSD please define all acronyms? For example, the acronym "AIC" or similar is used for an in-person community meeting. I have had one or more students in this distric since 2009 (>17 years), and I have no idea what or where AIC is. Also, please clarify for DCSD stakeholders, what schools are in Central, North areas, etc. Thanks! |
| 72 | I agree with the feedback above that multiple 650s are much more desireable than 800+. That is a sentiment we hear in Tucker also. |
| 73 | what will happen with happen with the pricicpal and the teachers if the school closes ? |
| 74 | I sincerely appreciate Dr. Sauce's direct answer to funding for PK3. |
| 75 | Were the attendance impacts of magnet programs and charter schools on local neighborhood schools considered? |
| 76 | What is your plan for the administrators, teachers and staff of schools that are closed or consolidated? Will they maintain positions with the district or be layed off? |
| 77 | If this process is driven in part by a desire to increase fiscial responsibility, and PK-3 is paid for by local funds, not the state, why is DCSD considering expanding PK-3? Isn’t funding PK-3 taking money away from serving current K-12 students? |
| 78 | When will the scenarios for the speciality schools be announced. Particularly, the Arts Academy and DSA. How will those buildings be used? |
| 79 | Have there been thoughts on dealing with the new Sequoyah Cluster first (letting redistricting settle after the Dresden, Sequoyah MS/HS buildings come online and fill those seats), relieving existing Chamblee/Cross Keys Cluster overcrowding. Then move on to other areas in the North? Basically, let the dust settle and get a new more accurate enrollemnt forecast before other changes to Dunwoody and Lakeside clusters. Sequoya will be such a huge change, it seems smart to let some constants settle before adding in othe variables? |
| 80 | Could DCSD please obtain expert input on the developmental implications of having grade bands that combine grades 6-12? As a pediatrician and internist (with expertise in preventing substance use disorders) as well as an experienced parent/guardian, I am concerned that a grade band of 6-12 poses risks for exposures of younger children to substances and bullying (esp. on buses and other circusmstances when supervision might not be adequate). Thanks! |
| 81 | My next question, can the current Lithonia Middle building become the High School while the Lithonia High building becomes the Middle School? Lithonia High is overfilled with kids from Arabia, Stephenson, etc… |
| 82 | What are your plans to help teachers and staff whose jobs are impacted? Dekalb just got fully staffed, it would be a giant shame to lose high performing staff and teachers over these changes. How can we retain our most valuable resources, people? |
| 83 | Is there a way you guys can add clubs/activities? I have been seeing somebody talking about adding Skateboarding towards the district as a district-wide thing only |
| 84 | Since this is a evolving plan, what are plans for ensuring that plans are in place to ensure postive relationships with everyone. |
| 85 | Vanderlyn is ranked #4 in DeKalb County and is in the top 5% of elementary schools in Georgia. While we understand the concerns being discussed, academic performance does not appear to be a primary factor in these considerations. My child consistently tests in the 90th percentile, and a significant contributor to that success is the academic rigor and instructional quality at Vanderlyn. From a parent perspective, enrollment numbers are secondary to educational outcomes. I am concerned about the potential impact of moving students to schools with lower performance in the hope that proficiency levels may improve over time. |
| 86 | I haven't heard any concerns about quality. its all about numbers. From the 27 schools that are on the list the well performing schools are not big building schools. Did you consider maybe small number of students equals good quality education? |
| 87 | How is DCSD and/HPM considering variations in per pupil expenditures at schools of varying sizes as part of this process? |
| 88 | Declining enrollment is due to multiple factors. How much of the decreased enrollment is due to families choosing other educational programs? What are you doing to ensure DCSD schools are seen as excellent educational opportunities for families in their boundaries? |
| 89 | Question on Tracy Richter's comments: When we talk about full time music, art teachers, etc are we thinking larger schools would still have only one resource? Or we'd double staff to support the larger school? I'm worried we are losing teacher/student ratios of specials to have less specials (art, music, guidance, nurse) for a larger student body. yes, some schools gain, but it seems others will still lose when you aren't sharing but one person is serving so much more (if more staff aren't added to support!) What is the thought here? The County would invest more/retain those teachers and add at others that are now larger? |
| 90 | I don't feel like all the questions are being answered directly. I hope the committee will re-review these questions and provide more direct responses to some of these questions in the near future. |
| 91 | Will there be a school-by-school breakdown of guiding factors or pros/cons for this first phase of potential future scenarios to help the community members as we provide solutions and feedback? Beyond the numbers and data posted to the SAP website? |
| 92 | Is there a way to redistrict without spending so much in Capex on building expansions? Could the exercises be independent? First, rationalize what we have and close what really is not needed. Then, consider spending tax dollars on expanding. For example, do you need a new Dresden yet? Seems you got 3 extra buildings? |
| 93 | Appreciate your answer about funding, but Vanderlyn has over 450 students and is at 85% capacity (according to your figures), then why is Vanderlyn on the potential closure list, since it is above the 450 student funding measure and is above the capacity measure? |
| 94 | What is the projected percentage drop in student enrollment through 2030 -2032? |
| 95 | What is the anticipated cost to convert high schools to middle schools and middle schools to high schools? |
| 96 | can you link the dash board? |
| 97 | will teacher student ratio change as well? |
| 98 | Is Seqouyah 6-12? I was unaware. I thought it was a MS and separate HS but on the same land, in close proximity, but two buildings? |
| 99 | '@Matt Sachs, Around 2018-2019, Ashford Park ES was planned to be rebuilt by 2028. Obviously, the demand is here for an optimally sized school. So why not invest in APES like what was planned when many of us moved to the area? |
| 100 | Ms. Smith, I see the Board of Education District map, but I am looking for the map that categorizes the schools into the North, Central, and other regions. Or do the districts directly relate to a specific region? These "regions" (i.e., North, Central, etc.) are not specifically clear on any of these maps. |
| 101 | Student safety is not just limited to buildings. I am concerned about settings including buses. What is DCSD going to do to monitor students' behaviors on buses for a school such as Sequoyah that is serving grades 6-12? As far as buildings, bathrooms are particularly hard to monitor. For PE and locker rooms/bathrooms, how is the safety of the younger kids going to be ensured in a school with grades 6-12? |
| 102 | Regarding Mr. Yoke’s response on ensuring DCSD schools as a desirable system for families to send their children: Yes, those are some of the data points for declining enrollment but as you can see from much of the community’s initial concern/outrage over the initial release of the proposed closures academic performance and fear of being combined with lower performing schools is a real concern. Even some of the comments/questions in this session demonstrate that. This will likely only lead to a larger decline in enrollment if there isn’t a simeltaneous focus on improving the quality of schools w/in the district. |
| 103 | Closing both Midvale (IB Authorized) and Brockett (IB Candidate), the IB continuum to Tucker Middle and High is lost. |
| 104 | Thank you, Tracy, for the clarification. For the schools that are waiting but know that closure is coming, how will they continue to be supported in the interim (potentially years-long) period? Is there a plan to ensure teachers are retained in the meantime? |
| 105 | thanks |
| 106 | Answering Mr. Ramsay’s and Mr. Yoke’s question.. If larger schools can support these, then can’t the Larger Schools have a better possibility on enforcing Skateboarding just as a District-Wide thing? You guys should ask that Sophomore at Lithonia High for assistance because I’m sure he’ll be down to work with you guys |
| 107 | As Scott mentioned, would really appreciate information on student thresholds for different roles. Specifically interested in how many nurses there will be in these larger schools. I have heard of nurses already overwhelmed in larger elementary schools. |
| 108 | What is the overall SAP timeline for proposing scenarios? What are the committee's determining factors to present a final scenario or set of scenarios to the board? |
| 109 | Will the merge eventually apply to all DeKalb county schools? |
| 110 | I’m reading responses to question stating capacity is one of many criteria used for consideration for the developed scenarios. Can you elaborate one the other criteria used? It appears that capacity and enrollment projections seem to be most pertinent for the sake of more funding. |
| 111 | in terms of capacity of buildings, are we certain it is accurate? Our schools report is from 2013, there isn't a computer lab anymore as every student has a chromebook. Just curious if the capacity data is up to date? How do we think about need for other rooms like ESOL, Gifted, breakout rooms for IEP meeetings, sensory rooms etc? Will we sacrifice these rooms for more classrooms in the consolidation effort? |
| 112 | IB Authorization is school specific. If Brockett and Midvale are closed, their authorization can't be moved to a new or different school (unless the new school retains the name Midvale or Brockett). The IB processs to become authorized is around 5 years. |
| 113 | Will the county try to avoid moving students more than once? Will this be a phased approach or big bang? If phased, will we receive the plan by year? Least disruptive impact to students should be imperitive (think Dresden elementary is still in session, but Cary Reynolds students are being moved a few times). |
| 114 | Curious if there are any other school districts in the nation that have undergone a similar scope of work that we are looking to for comparison or guidance, both recent and at least a decade of time? If so, which can we see the pros and cons, while understanding that they are very different from DeKalb. |
| 115 | The SAP timeline seems unrealistic when you won’t look at boundaries or programs until the fall unless there’s not going to be much time for input later. The SAP timeline has so much time going to half conversations where people can’t give meaningful feedback without knowing final impact on communities and programs. Will there be similar time in fall (months) for extensive community feedback on those critical aspects? |
| 116 | with less capacity, will this impact the functionality and feasibility of school choice? |
| 117 | How is DCSD going to support the morale and retention of administrators and staff who are in these facilities that might be impacted by these changes? From a workplace perspective, this is a major reorganization, which can be very stressful. |
| 118 | Having the COO say they research shows effectiveness of PK3 is a joke. the question was how is it fiscally responsible to close K12 schools but add PK3 programs that are solely funded by local K12 taxes? Taking K12 $$ to serve PK3 kids is mission creep of the fiscally irresponsible kind. |
| 119 | What will happen with the Kitridge Site and large stadium there? Cross Keys high was meant to move there and the existing high school was to convert to a middle school. Are those plans scrapped? What becomes of the Kittridge Site? |
| 120 | can a city use a close building for its own use? if the district has no need |
| 121 | Can the teams consider some maps that might show the areas in higher detail? For example, a map could show the central area within the whole distract and then there could be a larger map showing more detail about the central area. I can't really read the maps I have seen so far. It is particularly hard to discern the gray dots, which is a little disorienting and confusing. |
| 122 | That comment on Ashford Park expansion isn't accurate That's never been in a formal DSDC Plan, just wishful thinking of AP parents and real estate agents. 2017 was JLES redistricting plans, with no mention of expanding AP. |
| 123 | Thank you all for the great information! |
February 24th Meetings
Cedar Grove HS
In Person Questions
| 1 | Have you accounted for increased traffic stresses on these schools and surrounding communities, if so how? Closure of existing facilities, will likely strain personnel retention, how will the expanded facilities accommodating these closures effectively expand capacity when space is already limited and the potential for expansion construction is also limited? Additionally how will you address maintaining appropriate student/teacher ratios without overburdening active personnel? |
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| 2 | Where do expect to move the students from cedar grove high if you are trying to make it high school into a middle school. That's not going to work for the simple fact that there is no other high school closer and transporting them will cause the crime rate will increase if you combine 2+ more high schools cause it start off being territorial. We don't need for our young black children to go to jail. We need for them to graduate and become very successful |
| 3 | Is the educational adequacy assessment based on a single high school enrollment prototype model, and how does the district account for campuses originally designed to operate effectively at smaller enrollment scales? |
| 4 | When educational adequacy scores between high school campuses fall within one percentage point of each other, how does the SAP framework determine whether that difference is materially significant in repurposing considerations? |
| 5 | How is existing athletic infrastructure, including stadium capacity, practice fields, locker room configuration, and training facilities, being evaluated within high school repurposing considerations? |
| 6 | How does the SAP framework evaluate each facility’s capacity to support comprehensive high school program delivery within its existing structure? |
| 7 | Why can’t OEC be moved to McNair, which would increase there enrollment |
| 8 | How does the SAP framework evaluate existing athletic infrastructure; including stadium capacity, practice facilities, locker rooms, and training spaces—when determining high school repurposing options? |
| 9 | Why are the schools in the urban areas being affected? How are you going to cut back on overcrowded classrooms? Removing schools will lower the value of the community. You have people that move to certain areas because of the schools. How will you bring value back to the community? Are schools north of Stone Mountain being impacted? If not why? |
| 10 | Why can’t some of the positions at the District Office be released. They are very top heavy. That would free up funds to remodel current schools and find ways to increase attendance. |
| 11 | What are we doing as county to increase attendance. |
| 12 | Why isn't Towers High School listed? |
| 13 | Why can’t district lines be redrawn. In particular for Cedar Grove why can’t we accommodate more students further down River Road as in years pass?. |
| 14 | How will the schools be merged? When will we know which schools will have merged? What does that mean for those who were accepted in the lottery? |
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| 16 | Why are all schools in the rephrase process on the south end, why are there no north end schools. |
| 17 | How do you define what an “equitable” school district is? What factors are most important in that definition? |
| 18 | 1. Has the district conducted a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis that includes transportation expansion, class size increases, and long-term enrollment displacement? 2. Has a formal community impact study been conducted? 3. What is the projected net savings from closing after accounting for: Transportation increases Staff reassignment costs Facility maintenance/security for unused buildings Transition and potential rezoning expenses? |
| 19 | In order to form stable communities; it is crucial to have community schools at the primary level. Bob Mathis is critical to our community. What types of programs can increase population at this and other schools? Possible areas including but not limited to as English as second language and Foreign language institutes ? |
| 20 | Will some staff members lose their jobs or be reassigned if schools are consolidated, especially in circumstances where there is only one position needed for the school? |
| 21 | The SAP process began under the past superintendent and includes someone leading the process now from his prior school district, why should the public have any faith in this project? |
| 22 | What will be done with the buildings/sites that close? |
| 23 | How many of the 150 SAP members attended each meeting? |
| 24 | Will Cedar Grove consolidate with McNair? If so, what school year will that happen? |
| 25 | Why can’t we open to public comment? I think people should be able to speak |
| 26 | Do we need to close 27 school? Can the number be reduced to half ? |
| 27 | Has the district evaluated the financial value of legacy investments (donations, booster-funded facilities, alumni contributions)?If a campus is repurposed, how are those community-funded assets to be protected or transferred? |
| 28 | Given the current scenario, who has the ultimate decision to identify which schools will close? |
| 29 | What is the deciding factor on whether Cedar Grove will be closed or not? |
| 30 | Is the firm being used to provide data for the school closure in DeKalb the same firm Atlanta Public Schools used? |
| 31 | What is Cedar Grove High’s current enrollment vs. building capacity? What are the 5-year and 10-year enrollment projections specifically for this attendance zone? What assumptions were used in those projections? Has the district considered redrawing boundaries instead of repurposing the school? |
| 32 | Cedar Grove does not have elite programs that would make it a top-performing school. Why does Cedar Grove lack the programs needed to become a top-performing school compared to other schools in the district? |
| 33 | Hpm is referring to dollars, are we closing schools to save money or to make the schools more equitable? |
| 34 | This is about the future of these students’ lives. Why don’t you allow for public comment? Allow us to speak on our own behalf. |
| 35 | Why have millions of dollars been spent on renovations at some of these schools, or the signing of million dollar renovation contracts and you’re closing the anyways? Where is that money going? |
| 36 | Why isn’t there an option for public comment? the public should be able to engage openly about their children’s future. |
| 37 | What high school facility options are being considered for The Champion Theme Middle School? |
| 38 | I would like to hear more about the scenario rationale for repurposing buildings for specialty schools. |
| 39 | Closing Cedar Grove will amount to the economic death of Ellenwood. Not having a high school in the area will distract from promoting community growth. How will dekalb county serve the current and future high school students. |
| 40 | While it is clear we are in the preliminary stages how was the scenerio reached to close Cedar Grove HS and why is Towers HS option not on this questionaire sheet |
| 41 | FYI McNair HS isn't on the list of schools cluster list tonight. Closures in this side of town will likely continue to cycle of disinvestment in this area, further depressing the population. Has DCSD partnered with any of DeKalb county housing, workforce, youth development, or health organizations that could potentially serve as repurposing options? |
| 42 | You have 27 schools listed for closure, don’t intent to close 27 or 20? What is the starting point goal? |
| 43 | Why is the discussion process so heavily mediated? People should be able to speak openly about something that will impact their community. |
| 44 | What are the issues that you have identified with The Champion Theme Middle School both with the facility and the program that is offered? |
| 45 | If school enrollment is down throughout the county why not just make classes smaller so students can receive more one on one instruction ? |
| 46 | How did you chose the locations for these in person meetings this week? |
| 47 | Towers High School is not on the list of clusters. |
| 48 | What is going to happen to the faculty & staff at these cluster schools that may be affected by these changes? |
| 49 | Has the SAP committee conducted research on implementing p3 and p4 programs in each region, and does the data support offering these programs in each region? |
| 50 | You say it’s about kids, not buildings. Yet the district recently spent 8.5 million dollars on an empty office building that will cost another 1.5 million to furnish. Why is it kids not buildings when it comes to serving students but not when it comes to wasting money on office buildings? |
| 51 | If there are fewer schools, won't that worsen the transportation situation? Fewer kids can walk to school and routes and commutes will be necessary seems like the outcome. |
| 52 | During the Fall of the year ; young students that are displaced from neighborhood schools will be forced to be out in the pre-daylight hours. What are the plans to ensure their safety? |
| 53 | Our taxes paid for the school buildings. Their use after shutdown must be explicit BEFORE doing so. Planting grass is the literal worst choice. |
| 54 | You are proposing closure of 27 schools, how will you repurpose all of the staff in those buildings? What percentage are you expecting to have to let go? What data supports this/ what data have you looked at in regards to staff? |
| 55 | What is robust programming |
| 56 | If the board of education, consultants and dcsd staff are making decisions, why even have a sap committee? |
| 57 | What does the data say as it relates to why enrollment is down? Why are majority of the schools in South Dekalb? What are the plans for the buildings that are closing? How are you working with local municipalities on change management? |
| 58 | How does this affect home schoolers? Would lottery be needed if my child school is not to my liking, since the home school is closing? |
| 59 | If 27 schools are consolidated, will that not overcrowd classrooms, over-exert teachers, and ultimately degrade the attention and educational value any given student will receive? |
| 60 | Why did every school in the surrounding area get a renovation (McNair, SWD, MLK). And all we got was an auditorium that caused more problems than it fixed. Our sports teams don’t even have a proper locker room to prepare for games in and we’ve won more state championships than any of the schools that got renovated |
| 61 | Explain how you will decrease commuting time. Based on presentation, if you close schools than you will be increasing travel time |
| 62 | Given the documented impacts on students by increasing school commute time, and given the historical imbalances in investment in South DeKalb schools, what measures will the project take to: -ensure no reduction in student engagement and no increase in missed days -continue to invest in the neighborhood currently anchored by Cedar Grove High School and replace/supplement the services the school facility provides ? |
| 63 | Could you articulate how the defunding of the Department of Education is influencing this proposal? |
| 64 | Could you articulate how the defunding of the Department of Education is influencing this proposal? |
| 65 | May we address the root issues: 1. Repairs and improvements are patch work. The district invest and secure bids and contractors to do work and do not follow up on work completed. When work is done internal, the bare minimum is done to patch up, instead of fixing. |
| 66 | What does educational adequacy mean? |
| 67 | Is this about buildings or students' education? No data seems to have been considered on how this will affect the human beings involved. |
| 68 | Please list the characteristics or reasons why Cedar Grove HIgh School specifically, has been placed targeted as one of the recommended 3 high schools to become converted/consolidated. |
| 69 | The presentation discussed some scenarios for closed schools, a lot of elementary schools exist within neighborhoods- how will you addresses zoning concerns? |
| 70 | For the schools that experience an influx of new students, specifically, what resources will be provided to improve their education? |
| 71 | is the operating cost per school and distribution of the 20,000 open seats data available? |
| 72 | What does proximity of the facility location to student centers mean? Shifting middle schools to elementary sounds incredibly expensive. How does this save the district money? |
| 73 | Why does it appear as if the majority of the closures occur in the Southern area of the county? |
| 74 | If this presentation was provided ahead of time it would have allowed community members to properly review information and prepare questions. Clearly the opinions are not wanted |
| 75 | South DeKalb is 88% Black, and north DeKalb is overwhelmingly white. How are you ensuring that these closures are not disproportionately harming the Black community in the South, who can’t afford to move to the north? We can run on the assumption that enrollment will simply continue to decline |
| 76 | Why are the most changes happening in the south dekalb? Increasing the classroom size but diminishing the education level for the students. |
| 77 | Why are 90% of the schools that are projected to close located in South Dekalb County on this side of 285 Is the school closing and rezoning opening the doors to Data Centers to move into our areas which are unwanted by our community We would like to speak out loud so our voices are heard between 20 thousand empty seats are not a lot What about most of the schools that are over populated Why are you only trying to meet the budget with the schools closing in South Dekalb County when we are Tax Payers just like North Dekalb County How many students are in each school in South Dekalb County Where will the High School age children attend schools How will the new improvements ( so you say) be funded ( when you say there’s no money budget) What is cascading use! This is not right - Don’t try to sell use a bill of lies- We do matter on the side of South Dekalb county There will be a up cost to bus kids to school that iare not in their district Mrs Sharon Wiggins 404374-1239 |
| 78 | In regards to grade band scenarios, what data are you considering in regards to safety concerns of having a single school with a large range of ages in one building for example- a 10 year old (6th grade student) with an 18 year old senior? Will larger grade bands lead to more safety issues? |
| 79 | Before Chapel Hill MS and Cedar Grove MS were built there was only Cedar Grove ES and Cedar Grove HS why not go back to that model? |
| 80 | If Cedar Grove High School is closed what will happen to the teachers especially the CTAE teachers |
| 81 | How does this effect Expectional Needs students? This will cause them to have an even longer commute which can cause other issues for them medically. |
| 82 | How do you all plan to separate the middle schoolers from the high schoolers all on one campus? We have already crossed this road before some years ago. |
| 83 | Towers Cluster isn't listed. Is it definitely closing? |
| 84 | Has data been evaluated on the impacts of school closings in primarily black communities? The disruption of moving can lead to academic decline in some students, increased absences, and higher dropout rates, |
| 85 | Since Cedar Grove Elementary and High Schools are close in proximity, wouldn't it be easier to keep those schools open to address issues related to making it easier for families with multiple children and save on transportation? |
| 86 | For years DeKalb has invested in McNair high school when enrollment was extremely low. Graduation rates was one of the lowest in the district. Meanwhile, Cedar Grove High School continue to function and produce high school graduates, show steady increase in CCPRi scores, perform on and off the field and kept learning the main thing. Yet, the school was often overlooked in resources and partnerships. So much of the county resources were provided to McNair. Now explain the ROI on that |
| 87 | Has anyone studied the impact of student safety both physically and mentally with placing 6th grade emotionally and physically vulnerable with 11th and 12th students? |
| 88 | Note that this way of relaying questions is not community engagement. It is directly forcing the way you want to receive feedback. More than one school impacts my community and property taxes |
| 89 | I don’t believe 6-12 will be safe for our kids. The 6 and 7th graders. This is definitely not going to be good. |
| 90 | For years DeKalb has invested in McNair high school when enrollment was extremely low. Graduation rates was one of the lowest in the district. Meanwhile, Cedar Grove High School continue to function and produce high school graduates, show steady increase in CCPRi scores, perform on and off the field and kept learning the main thing. Yet, the school was often overlooked in resources and partnerships. So much of the county resources were provided to McNair. Now explain the ROI on that |
| 91 | Why was the S. Dekalb curriculum not reviewed to understand why enrollment is down versus the evaluation of body count in buildings being down. |
| 92 | I grew up in Dekalb County under the K-7, 8-12 scenario. Going back to that model would help save the county money and best utilize resources. If possible, can you all add that to a possible scenario? |
| 93 | How many students to teacher ratio? I was informed that we have over 30 students to one teacher. |
| 94 | If combining 6-12 grade how will you keep the development of the 6-8th grade students from suffering in both educational and athletic programming. |
| 95 | What is the plan managing overcrowding that these proposed scenarios will likely cause. |
| 96 | What is the cost of under-investing in a high-performing school? Burnout of staff Missed partnership opportunities Stagnated innovation Community frustration Perception of inequity in reverse These impact enrollment. |
| 97 | It seems as though South DeKalb is taking brunt of the closures, why is this? |
| 98 | Supporter of McNair Cluster. Question based on the information combine. Can HS be considered for 8-12 HS and Elementary pk-7. |
| 99 | I came to express my support for the continued existence of Columbia ES as the parent of a student there. I am very dissapointed I have not been allowed to speak at this meeting. I do not need another form or QR code. I need you to not punch another hole in South DeKalb. |
| 100 | What percentage of the 150 SAP committee was from Cedar Grove? |
| 101 | Being that Cedar Grove High has had recent renovations, would this building remain as a school whether it be middle or high school? I would rather it remain as a high school. |
| 102 | what is the merge based off of? Which schools will be going to which schools what does that mean for the lotter? what does that mean for those who accepted the new school for the lotter. Dresscode, middle, elementary? |
| 103 | Why are some many schools on the south dekalb are effected? Not many on the North side. |
| 104 | Is the district's projected enrollment decline of 16% concentrated to the areas Thai house the impacted schools? |
| 105 | was it considered in our south schools that many students aren't enrolled due to offerings at special program schools such as Arabia mountain? Instead of having special buildings that move our kids from their home schools. Why isn't it considered to close those schools to better invest in programs locally? wouldn't this check the boxes of these "5" reasons. Stop bussing our kids out and provide the opportunities locally. We don't need theme schools. |
| 106 | Does the data reveal the underlying reasons for the decline in enrollment for the district? If so, what are the primary reasons for the decline and what countermeasures have been considered? |
| 107 | Why are there mostly schools on the Southside on this list? |
| 108 | What sense does it make to present so many closures on the south end and expansion in the north? This display causes divisional outlook. It is more viable to see a more equitable distribution. |
| 109 | Where would staff go for the schools that could possibly be closing? |
| 110 | Greetings, I am a former fed, I still visit when called to washington. I am called a solutions on call to feds (i.e Trump) If the issue is low enrollment, ok, but to put an 11 yearold in school with 17 year olds. I have over 50parents, this is not smart. at 17 yr old i got money every week from an 11 year old. Someone talk to me i am not an ordinary citizen. |
| 111 | Has data on the impacts of the school closings and the community been evaluated? Schools in black neighborhoods often serve as community anchors, and their closure often acts as a precursor to rapid decline in the community it serves. |
| 112 | Has the Committee considered the impact of school of choice process and the limited allocation of specialized resources and programming been considered? Parents are selecting schools that accommodate special interests that are not available in their home zoned school. |
| 113 | Explain how the school district works with the county commission to help spur economic growth in South Dekalb similarly to the economic boom on the north end of the county. |
| 114 | McNair CCPRI 58.5 vs Cedar Grove 66.6 Enrollment CGHS 1258 2024 - McNair 891 2023 - McNair 888 2022 - McNair 896 2019 - McNair 820 2018 - McNair 820 |
| 115 | Do the 27 schools on the list make up the 20,000 open slots? |
| 116 | If the buildings do closed, the saling the of building or land is that option. Instead seating for 10yrs |
| 117 | What is the expected class size before and after the consolidation? There is a perception of overcrowded schools and now we are talking about further consolidating, especially on the south end of the county. |
| 118 | Money does not go to empty seats. For individual students, would it not be more money/1-on-1 time with teachers? |
Virtual
Virtual Questions
| 1 | What is the timeline and the process to make decisions on the buildings for “program” schools like Dekalb School of the Arts? |
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| 2 | With a 6–8 year implementation window, what safeguards are in place to prevent mid-process instability for families in impacted clusters if there is a change in administration leadership and/or board membership? |
| 3 | This ambiguity causes a lot of stress and anxiety in the program school community. Can you not provide a more concrete process and timeline? |
| 4 | Similar to the DSA question, is DeKalb evaluating the closure of magnet and/or charter schools/programs as part of this process? Enrollment at those schools negatively impacts local school attendance. |
| 5 | The omission of programs buildings like Kitteredge from the buildings proposal just released directly contradicts the HPM slide that says that SAP is looking at facilities first and then program. This omission implies that a decision has already been made about some if not all programs. Why is there a disconnect between what SAP/HPM say they’re doing and what they actually are releasing? Why has the district not included ALL educational buildings in its initial facilities proposal? |
| 6 | With Champion on th list as a closure, what would happen to those scholars? Will thy get anew location or will the Theme programl no longer exist? |
| 7 | This process seems to address the negative impacts of resources and funding of underenrolled schools, but how are the benefits of smaller schools being considered? Are they even being considered at all? I know many would rather have their child in a smaller school. |
| 8 | Is there a link to this slide presentation? |
| 9 | Yesterday you shared that cluster sessions will be more in-depth. Being that Cedar Grove is the intended cluster meeting this evening, will there be specific CGMS information shared at that meeting tonight? |
| 10 | I’m troubled by the idea that some areas may have different grade bands than others. That’s not an equitable approach and does not seem to meet SAP’s guiding principles. The decision about what grade bands schools should have (k-8, pk-2, etc) should be determined solely by what’s best for children’s educational needs, not by which geographic areas yelled louder about their school’s potential closure. Grade bands should be consistent throughout the district. |
| 11 | For those of us in Elementary schools being closed, what kind of options will we have on school placements? Will those of us most impcated have any say/impact? This already seems like its been decided. |
| 12 | Is there a ‘factor’ incorporated into the future school enrollment projections due to this SAP process? I think it’s likely that many families may decide to not enroll or leave the district due to this process. |
| 13 | Thanks for the links! |
| 14 | Any details on why enrollment is declining over the years? Why is it expected to increase next year? |
| 15 | Any details on why enrollment is declining over the years? Why is it expected to increase next year? |
| 16 | How are classroom sizes impacted with these recommendations? |
| 17 | I understand that your plan is to release parts of the proposal at a time, but it is very hard to provide feedback without a comprehensive plan. Where is the proposal about how the reinvestment of this savings will help our children? Families will be more on board with their schools closing if you can promise them that they’ll have a max class size of 20 in their new elementary schools, a para in every K class, and a Kitteredge-level gifted program available within a 10-min drive of every child. |
| 18 | What plans will be made for staff of buildings that close? |
| 19 | Is there any thought of an 8-12 scenario, like we used to have. the 8th-9th transition already sees a high failure rate. IMHO, having 8th grade in high school (but not 6-7) eases that transition. Grade bands could be PK-4, 5-7, 8-12. |
| 20 | Has the district considered cutting from the top to help with funding? The high salary positions of the district and the 6.5 MILLION dollar purchase of the building they purchased in November 2024 that I believe is still sitting there? |
| 21 | Given that community awareness of SAP has increased during Phase 1, how will the district ensure that newly informed stakeholders have meaningful opportunities to contribute during Round 2 of scenario review? |
| 22 | do you anticipate different grade bands being utilized throught the county or a more unified system? |
| 23 | Are they factoring the large amount of construction adding apartments and townhomes in these districts that will increase enrollment over the next few years? |
| 24 | To the anonymous attendee who posted about Kittredge …share the sentiment and concern about the program schools. The SAP committee spent the majority of their time last fall focused on making recommendations about “prorgrams” in the ABSENCE of any metrics or data (it felt like a biased decision). The last recommendation that SAP made before they moved onto “buildings” was for programs to be embedded in neighborhood schools and not exist in stand alone buildings. Would not be surprised if this sentiment is carried forward when programs are back on the table. SAP needs to help us understand how a fair and data driven process will be used to make decisions on programs. We need transparency in the program decision process and a defined timeline. |
| 25 | For schools that are being closed, what will happen with the building? I believe the presentation stated they'll be available in case they're needed. But what does that mean for building maintenance and usage if the school is closed? |
| 26 | I heard the word “equitable” and “access” used at the start of this webinar. Will the district be addressing the fact that the schools being most affected by closure are global majority title one schools with transportation barriers? |
| 27 | Clarity: If an elementary schools close, will those schools end up being a PreK-8 or Prek-2nd/3rd-5th building? |
| 28 | What is educational adequacy/inadequacy? Tks |
| 29 | What average ES student capacity is being targeted as the result of this process? |
| 30 | The data that HPM has presented does not show an actual population decrease throughout the district. K numbers are actually expected to increase in the north. And if the plan is to reinvest in schools to raise the educational quality everywhere, what plan do we have for having space for families that may switch back to public from private when changes like class size are implemented? The proposal does not have room for all live in district children to send their children to school in all areas. |
| 31 | Once decisions are finalized, when is the expected start time for this process? |
| 32 | I took the SAP survey early, but now more information has been shared. |
| 33 | Oops! Now I'm unable to take the survey again. Am I just out of luck or is there a way I can respond to the survey again? |
| 34 | Is the video going to be available to review after this call/? |
| 35 | Please discuss the plan for MS students in the Cross Keys cluster. From reading the slides it looks like the choices are K8 or splitting up the students for MS grades at 3 existing MS. This is not at all typical for DCSD. Why should this be imposed on this cluster? |
| 36 | To make the language plain, lower school enrollment and smaller classroom sizes are not ideal because it impacts federal funding to schools? Why aren't we viewing smaller schools and class sizes as an opportunity for more personalized learning, teaching and social/emotional growth? Next, when you speak of funding support and resources, what does "better alignment" look like in action? |
| 37 | With transportation being a factor, why are Midvale, Evansdale, Brockett, and Henderson Mill ALL considered for closure. This is a large area and would cause large transportation concerns. |
| 38 | Thank you! |
| 39 | What factors are contributing to enrollment declining over the years? Why is it expected to increase next year? |
| 40 | Would the be consistency on 4x4 vs. 7-period schedule in high school? |
| 41 | One purposed option is looking like EVERY cluster elementary school in McNair district is closed. McNair and Cedar Grove are some of the largest cluster districts. If all of them are closed and knowing our community and transportation barriers, how will this affect our students and families? |
| 42 | Is there an existing DCSD elementary school that fits this ideal 600 student population and is adequately resourced to SAP’s expectations? If so, which ones? |
| 43 | Why are most of the schools on the southest side of the county. for example middle and elementary schools |
| 44 | Is it a possibility for more clubs/activities to get in these schools so more people can move towards the District to have their child participate and engage with the environment? Like get skateboarding in the schools at least |
| 45 | Will the SAP committee still lead the discussion? 150 people can not represent 92,000 students. Will there be another opportunity to serve on the dedicated committee? Like a jury, if the round 1 members are rotated out and the results are similar in round 2, that ensures equity across all voices in the district. Feedback and questions are great and we appreciate the opportunity to share our thoughts, but I think the community would like the opportunity to participate meaningfully in this process |
| 46 | is this a discussion on what the taxpayers think, or you are just letting us know what you are going to do? |
| 47 | How can you say that you’re still looking at grade bands when the proposal recently released includes specifics about grade bands - ie, elem to middle school, and keeping two schools open that are literally next door to each other - PMS/Chesnut while closing Kingsley/Vanderlyn that would make a different grade band scenario in that area impractical. |
| 48 | The implementation is exected over 6-8 years. Are there a projection on if that is more front or back loaded over that time line, smooth + regular changes each year, how much advance notice might schools have prior to changes, ect. |
| 49 | What about school re-enrollment or engagement programs? What innovative things could be done to fill these empty seats prior to considering closing schools? |
| 50 | It's not so much as South DeKalb isn't growing as that many parents are choosing to send their children to other schools in and outside the county due to the inequity of schools in our County. There are also parents moving into this area and choosing private schools, virtual schools, etc which is another downfall of gentrification. |
| 51 | I’m a bit confused on some of the identified schools for closure. Some are fairly new buildings, Many have had huge developments built near by recently, and many had renovations in the last few years. I’ve seen their numbers increase as well as programs and testing scores. |
| 52 | But they are close enough to walk with smaller schools. |
| 53 | Is there a reason why Lithonia Middle is being turned into the Elementary School when everybody at Lithonia High should be in that building instead of the newly constructed one? It’s becoming overcrowded with kids coming from Arabia, Stephenson, MLK, etc.. |
| 54 | I would like to know how school choice will be affected by the SAP process? |
| 55 | “Unfortunate reality” shouldn’t negate our right of equity for ALL of Dekalb. |
| 56 | Suggestion: I have not seen in the scenarios the under enrollment/over enrollment numbers for buidings. This might help with trust and understanding as to why the closures/changes are concentrated in some areas verses others. |
| 57 | Both enrollment and capacity were fairly steady from 2006-2020 then enrollment dropped precipitously due to COVID and the district’s operational response during this period. Again, has DCSD considered how to attract these students back to the district instead of closing schools? |
| 58 | What about high schools that are already overcrowded and. Wed maintenance they aren’t on the SAP plan for any changes. Some of us are concerned that this project is focusing on low enrollment buildings which it should, but what if this then kicks the can down the road for needed improvements that will get delayed for our crowded high schools when the focus is improving elementary school campuses? |
| 59 | Are there any other districts in Georgia or other states that have experienced these types of proposed closures and if so, what were the immediate and long-term effects? |
| 60 | How can we have confidence in this process given recent controversial School Board decisions, such as those regarding former super intendent Horton and a lack of accountability for the individuals involved in his hiring? Especially given the timeline of when this SAP process started (under his watch)? |
| 61 | Can you address the possible closure of south Dekalb’s early special education program and diagnostic center that is housed at Bob Mathis ES? South Dekalb needs early special education services while north Dekalb has Coralwood. Would a new one be created to serve the very large and growing population of special education students? |
| 62 | families move to other district and comes back to our district because of the school choice since we have the best school choice. what will happen to schools that are school choice which are in the consolidation or closing scenario ? |
| 63 | I want to commend the district leadership for taking on this very difficult work with a clear focus on long-term fiscal responsibility. Aligning facilities with actual enrollment, addressing aging buildings, and planning for sustainable capacity is not easy, but it is the kind of prudent stewardship that strong organizations must practice to serve students well over time. I would also like to offer one constructive consideration regarding assignments. From a geographic and community standpoint, it seems more logical for Henderson Mill students to feed into the new Dresden facility in Chamblee rather than being routed across I-285 into Tucker. Major infrastructure boundaries like an interstate naturally shape traffic flow, travel time, and community connection. Keeping attendance zones aligned with proximity and existing neighborhood patterns helps support both families and students in practical ways. Thank you for the thoughtful planning and transparency shown throughout this process. Decisions of this scal |
| 64 | At what phase will we know where Champion Theme School will be moved? |
| 65 | Decisions of this scale are never simple, but they are essential to ensuring the district remains financially sound and positioned to serve future generations. |
| 66 | What is the ideal utilization for DCSD schools? How much "elbow room" is targeted? |
| 67 | The changes are supposed to take place over the next 6-8 years, which means that some of those who should be most invested in this are families with very young children. However, the in-person meetings are at 6pm on weekdays which is the worst possible time for working parents with little ones. Can you add 8pm zoom meetings after toddler bedtime or weekend feedback sessions to get more community input? |
| 68 | Answering Mr. Ramsey’s response. The Skateboarding Clubs Programming Questions can be answered from a student who’s into it a lot if they attend DCSD. Do y’all even have contact with a high school student who’s into it a lot? I have seen several comments about a 10th grader in Lithonia who’s trying to assist y’all with all the answers you need and if I’m correct, that 10th grader is trying to become a Professional Skateboarder from my understanding. |
| 69 | Are we able to discuss that lower capacity in predominantly minority areas are also Impacted by inequity in resources etc. which then causes the people.i that area to seek schools elsewhere via school choice, private, virtual schools etc |
| 70 | Scott's explaination using the Lakeside cluster and David Yoke's comment (12:57pm) I think are good examples that should be used going forward. |
| 71 | Just to clarify, the ideal utilization for iindividual schools would also be 88%. Is this true for ES, MS, HS? Thank you. |
| 72 | McNair DLA is also choice school and still listed as possible closure. Would putting all of the entire cluster of ES in the middle school take away that STEM school certification and Choice option of McNair? |
| 73 | Has the number of school choice seats available under HB 251 been capped at any schools in anticipation of future redistricting/SAP changes? |
| 74 | My suggestion: Add in more School-Clubs or District-Only Club Sports that can be more efficient for more students to participate in. Declining Population can be prevented if this is added into the schools soon to prevent some of these schools from closing or neither being repurposed. We should get Rollerskating Clubs for this, and by fair Atlanta and DeKalb surrounding areas are getting more skateparks, so it should be reasonable to add in Skateboarding Clubs too. |
| 75 | Will there be other opportunities to join SAP or sub-committees? |
| 76 | Can you address the new expansion of creating MedCura clinic on campus providing medical and mental health care for our community these last two years? That was a partnership with MedCura and the school and can impact access. |
| 77 | is there a place with the region breakdown. looked and xould not find this on the site. we have been given districts. |
February 25th Meetings
MLK
In Person Questions
| 1 | Based off of the schools provided that are to be closed vs converted; why are schools so disproportionately being closed in the south Dekalb/ Stone Mountain area vs. Gwinnett/Dunwoody area ? |
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| 2 | What is the plan for when schools become overcrowded again? |
| 3 | Why are some schools showing as closed already when these are supposedly suggestions? |
| 4 | Stoneview ES has already been told that we were APPROVED for updates and renovations. Which is it are we’re putting money in to the school or are they trying to close it. |
| 5 | What qualifications and reasons were there for choosing hpm? Were there other contractors available for this project? |
| 6 | Is HPM the contractor that was told would be working on Stoneview elementary |
| 7 | Is the demographics of the areas turning from majority black to majority white in the areas where the schools are scheduled to close? |
| 8 | What will happen to the faculty and staff to the schools if they decide to close them? What happened to talks of zoning? |
| 9 | We know there are many apartments in the Stoneview es area. 11 with more being built. How is this data considered |
| 10 | If there are an estimate is 20,000 empty seats in the district. How or why is money being spend on spots that is understood to be empty? |
| 11 | When there are decisions on closure what are the plans for the closed buildings? What will they be used for and will we get a monetary benefit selling them? Will they be sold? |
| 12 | Where does the accountability lies when we as citizens of DeKalb County taxpayers at DeKalb County have to put up with change orders of $660,000 on projects that have been delayed and they have had change orders. $6.2 million on the building that we don’t need and $200 million on Druid Hills along with $146 million Cross Keys high school sequoia and a few other schools in the district, where is the accountability and who do we hold accountable for those error? Then that we are proposing to close 27 schools and we are going to have empty buildings that we are no longer going to use. Why can’t some of these buildings be used as administrative offices? |
| 13 | From the list of schools provided, when organized by county; the conversion of schools in North Dekalb ( Gwinnett/ Dunwoody) has equal closures to conversion. But in the Stone Mountain/Redan area have a significantly fewer amount of school conversions and more closures than those in the northern counties. This impacts not just education but families who intend to purchase homes, investment in the community and more. Why aren’t the conversion of school proportionate all over DCSD? |
| 14 | Why would you consider merging high schools that could cause cultural and climate shifts versus making the campuses 7-12 or 8-12 institutions? We have had these grade bands in a high school setting before, consolidating 3 high schools that are over 15 miles away from one another. |
| 15 | The schools in South Dekalb county is the only school being considered for closure and North Dekalb is being prepared for expansion? |
| 16 | How will the closed facilities be utilized after closure? Is there a plan in place? |
| 17 | Why are most of these school closures in south Dekalb county |
| 18 | “If other high schools convert or consolidate, could MLK see enrollment shifts due to overflow or re-zoning? Has modeling been done on how this scenario impacts cluster balance? |
| 19 | I foresee overcrowding with the projected closures. Are students able to attend any school in the district if the parents are willing to provide transportation for their students? |
| 20 | If grade band configurations change districtwide, has the district modeled how that would affect enrollment balance and program access within clusters like MLK that are not proposed for closures? |
| 21 | If many ES deal with behavioral issues how does more students in one building make sense in terms of SAFTEY? |
| 22 | Did the SAP process include actual visits to these school clusters before making assessments? |
| 23 | Why are all of the middle and high schools being considered for closure in predominately black areas? Are you saying that there are less black children being born in South Dekalb than children being born in north Dekalb? |
| 24 | What is the timeline for implementation? Will this be phased in approach? South Dekalb is being significantly impacted and NOT North Dekalb. |
| 25 | 1. When you say 20,000 empty seats are you referring to physically empty seats or educationally available seats? Reason being, seats that are in outdated, unsafe, or improperly configured in schools that the district failed to renovate is not the same as seats ready for students tomorrow. 2. Looking at the district decisions in the past regarding overcrowding schools which resulted to temporary trailers and building middle schools. Furthermore, contributing to the neglect of the elementary schools being maintained. If enrollment grows again, will taxpayers pay to rebuild schools that are being closed? 3. One of the factors that keeps getting mentioned is lower birth rate. Is the district working with local government in producing more family-based housing? The county, especially South DeKalb is growing with senior units and age restricted housing. This plays a major factor because this age group is NOT having children. 4. Has the district taken into consideration of stress that will be caused towards the students if they have to travel further for school? Also, many students may have to wake up earlier to be transported to one of the consolidated schools to make it to school on time? Which may led to decrease school attendance. |
| 26 | Will theme schools be phased out? |
| 27 | The redistricting of 1992 failed to address the racial imbalance and under resourcing of schools in South DeKalb. What solutions are being implemented to address this historical shortcoming? |
| 28 | Understanding that expansions mean “upgraded facilities” does repurposing indacte the same? Will their be “upgrades to buildings that are being repurposed? |
| 29 | If Lithonia does not have an enrollment crisis, why is closure being considered instead of modernization or investment? If proximity and building adequacy are the criteria for closure, can you show how that standard is being applied consistently across all clusters not just in Lithonia? Is there documented evidence that Lithonia High School’s enrollment, academic performance, or facility condition alone warrants merger or is this decision being driven solely by district-wide seat projections? Why not move Lithonia hs back to the old High school and build and additional wing like that has been done at a Chamblee.? |
| 30 | Although the timeline doesn't begin for another 6 years, is there any information on how gradual the process will be? For example 1 cluster in year 6 then maybe another cluster in year 8? |
| 31 | With 600 to 700 students in a school wouldn’t they be overcrowded an what would the classroom sizes look like |
| 32 | 1st I would like to say Thank all of you for coming out My name is Sharon Wiggins and I am from the Cedar Grove community It’s very disheartening to know our children, schools, teachers, staff are not valued in South Dekalb County There is no way we should be having conversations about 25 schools closing on the South side of Dekalb county only and only 2 schools on North Dekalb County Busing kids out of their neighborhoods schools is not effective due children getting up earlier coming home later leaving them in harms way at drop off location And the younger students should not be housed with high school students When the children will be safer walking to a bus stop in their current neighborhood near their Homes So this process is not an option we want for our children The county is putting billions of dollars into Druid hills and expanding South Dekalb County but not putting that same dollar amount into aging schools in South Dekalb County Schools Out of the 25 schools they are not all under enrolled To close 25 schools and shifting all our children elementary, middle and high school for a 8 year period is unacceptable The other concern with closing the schools are the empty buildings leaving a cascading in of Data centers entering into the empty spaces effecting our property values and the lively hood of our children We are tax payers and our tax dollars support the whole Dekalb County Parents Teachers and staff in the South Dekalb Community we need to come out standing against this We are asking the SAP to go back redirect and refocus on a different option that will better serve our children and our community because this plan will not work for our community Mrs Sharon Wiggins |
| 33 | How many companies submitted RFP? |
| 34 | I am a product of school desegreation in 70's. While listening to your overview regarding the recommenedatiin, this is the same model that was implemented for elementary schools where K thru 3rd went to 1 or 2 school building and 3rd thru 6th grade went to 1 or 2 school buildings. The greatest impact was for families that lacked transportation to participate in after school events and PTA like activities, because their children no longer attended a neighborhood school. Does your plan address this concern? |
| 35 | Does the community have a say in the contractors that are chosen? When was hpm selected |
| 36 | The presentation talked about larger facilities and larger cohort groups being more efficient. But where is the consideration for how these larger sizes effect social & educational development of students? |
| 37 | Then what about cost of maintenance if closing and holding? |
| 38 | I thought lawmakers were trying to get rid of vouchers, is this true? |
| 39 | Why isnt GA using $14.6 billion surplus to build new schools and increase available programs and resources? |
| 40 | Why isnt GA using $14.6 billion surplus to build new schools and increase available programs and resources? |
| 41 | What’s the process and procedures of closings schools? |
| 42 | Lithonia has never had an enrollment issue. Did you’ll know the strong history of Lithonia? How is Lithonia even on the list for have 82 students over capacity? |
| 43 | How will this affect CTAE and Fine Arts classes that already have high classes sizes assigned by the state? For example band class can house over 100 students at a time. |
| 44 | Moving students from Cedar grove to McNair seems extreme as those schools are in totally different neighborhoods & zip codes. They are no closer than schools on the Northside of the district and again tons of communities being built |
| 45 | There are now 3 privately run schools on Miller Road within 3 miles of Bouie Theme School, which is part of the Brownsmill Elementary area. Do you have attendance data for these schools? Does the DCSD have relationship with these schools? |
| 46 | The question about class size was not answered directly. Please address whether the scenario under discussion would result in a different average class size than that which currently exists. Thank you |
| 47 | Committee expansion / Round 2 participation You asked whether additional community members could join or refresh the 150-member advisory committee for a second round of scenario review. |
| 48 | How will student voice be incorporated into the SAP process? |
| 49 | Currently all schools do not provide modified special education classes so my concern is how closing schools will affect the class sizes of special education |
| 50 | Does everyone on the board agree with this scenario |
| 51 | If we are the largest preK provider in the state, are we.tracking these students to see where they continue their education in the DeKalb or other schools districts? |
| 52 | In the superintendent's recent presentation, the focus was framed as enrollment, capacity, and building condition rather than academics. However, the February 13 federally identified schools document highlights schools currently under federal improvement status. Has the district conducted a cross-analysis between those federally identified schools and the facilities scenarios to ensure that decisions based on capacity and building integrity do not unintentionally concentrate intervention schools? |
| 53 | If the issue with the schools being open is funding, how are the repurposed buildings being funded? |
| 54 | With a 6-8 year implementation window, what safeguards are in place to prevent mid-process instability for families in impacted clusters if there is a change in administration leadership and/or board membership? |
| 55 | When considering that we are the largest pre-K enrollment how is the enrollment dropping so steeply at the higher levels? Seems like a leak in the funnel |
| 56 | What safeguards or resources will be in place for unhoused students? |
| 57 | Where is Eric Hofstetter |
| 58 | Will this effect the special education program from 6-12 grades? |
| 59 | How many students in the MLKHS Cluster live in temporary or hotel types of housing? What adjustments will be made to accommodate the obvious transiency (moving out the cluster area) for these students who float to other areas because of their housing situation? |
| 60 | Since there will be empty buildings on the Southside, will any be sold for data centers? |
| 61 | How does this closure plan help with the bus driver shortage, and what is being predicted to become a nationwide teacher shortage? |
| 62 | Stoneview ES was surveyed and were told to be getting updates. Why are we listed for closure? |
| 63 | Will Eric Hofstetter be present at tomorrow’s presentation? |
| 64 | “If we want to remain competitive and retain students, why haven’t our athletic facilities been upgraded?? |
| 65 | How will this help students especially pre k with special needs. Mental health issues is pushed under the table and kids are combined in a normal class settings with teachers not trained to address certain issues. And then teachers arent able to conduct classroom appropriately cause the board says they have to be in class with peers |
| 66 | We have been told that there is a large waiting list for students to enter the magnet school and that decisions were made to intentionally keep the school population below 1,200 when the school can hold more than 1,600. Is it true that the SWDHS Magnet Program is being intentionally held low? |
| 67 | Why are 27 schools being suggested to close when that wasn’t the recommendations of the committee |
| 68 | How will this affect CTAE and fine arts? Some schools are capped at 100 students with 1 instructor, where will they go? |
Virtual
Virtual Questions
| 1 | Can you please walk us through “building adequacy” scores and how those were used to determine which schools will be closed vs expanded? |
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| 2 | Can you explain how, if at all, student achievement factored into decisions about which elementary schools would be “closed or repurposed”? |
| 3 | Given the board discussion about community trust, is there consideration for creating additional advisory input structures for Round 2, even if the original SAP 150 person committee membership remains unchanged? |
| 4 | How has the board investigated the root cause for DCSD's empty seats, with data gathered specifically for DCSD? We all know generalized reasons faced by public ed. What is specific to DCSD and how does this plan address the specific DCSD root cause? |
| 5 | Has the district conducted an equity impact analysis comparing the socioeconomic composition of schools, not just capacity and building integrity, proposed for consolidation with those that are not? If so, will that analysis be shared publicly before the next scenario is presented at the March 16 board meeting? |
| 6 | Several elementary schools are listed to be closed in district 4 within 1-2 miles of one another. Each of those schools has 400+ students per school. If those students are shifted to a new location, how will the district account for transportation for those students? More efficient transportation has been cited as a pro to this process, yet moving children from smaller neighborhood schools to a larger school would indicate more kids needing transportation. |
| 7 | With smaller elementary schools moving to the new goal of “at least 600 seats”, what assurances do parents have that teacher to student ratios will not balloon? You have said in other discussions that 600+ is the ideal elementary size. What is the district’s idea of an ideal teacher to student ratio? |
| 8 | Though you say you are not looking at programs, just buildings, can you explain the reason that specialty schools seem to be insulated from this process, including magnet, theme, and other schools (some with compromised buildings such as Champion)? If the goal is to improve and consolidate ALL facilities, and overlay programs and capital after, it would seem that all buildings should be included in the leading scenarios. |
| 9 | Many elementary schools in the county are older and in need of major repair and rehabilitation to modernize and accomodate new (and existing) students. Are students of closed schools going to walk into a newer, better school than their previous school? Is the County planning on making major investments into the merged (retained) schools? Let’s take a specific example of Henderson Mill ES closing and merging into Hawthorne ES. Can you walk us through how improvements are planned for Hawthorne in this case? I don’t understand how the financials work doing this all over the County. |
| 10 | Why is the current Lithonia Middle building becoming the elementary school when the current Lithonia High building can be used for Middle School and the old Middle School building can go back as the High School? Doesn’t make sense if Lithonia High is overfilled. |
| 11 | Will there be additional opportunities for parents to submit surveys after we have additional information from these and other sessions? I submitted my input earlier last week, but as I learn more through this process, I would love the opportunity to submit additional feedback. Will there be similar surveys available for parents to respond to after we have more information about budgets and boundaries? Thank you! |
| 12 | The class ratio is that ideal because some elementary schools classes as of now have more students. |
| 13 | Pk -8 would have 4 year olds through 13 year olds (14 or 15 in some cases) in the same building, correct? |
| 14 | If Columbia Elementary students are reassigned to a consolidated K–8 or middle school facility, what will the projected student-teacher ratios be by grade level in the receiving school? |
| 15 | Where did you get the number of 24 students per classroom for elementary schools? |
| 16 | 44 schools in DeKalb are already operating under 70% capacity — but 18 are over 100% -What is Columbia Elementary’s current building utilization rate, and how does that compare to nearby receiving schools being proposed in this scenario? |
| 17 | Thank you, Matt, for the response on cap improvements. For clarification - if the plan is to retain and reuse the closed elementary schools for other purposes, will those require renovations as well - or will renovation and reuse of the closed facilities be on hold until renovations are completed to consolidate and expanded facilities? |
| 18 | What is the timing of the development of the Capital Improvements Plan? When can we expect to see the dollars associated with projects and schedule? |
| 19 | DeKalb County schools have an average ranking of 5/10, placing them in the bottom 50% of Georgia public schools, How does the district anticipate that consolidating elementary students into larger or shared facilities will improve CCRPI Content Mastery scores in reading and math for receiving schools? |
| 20 | What is difference in buildings in the N. Dekalb area to the S. Dekalb area? It sounds like the district has neglected the S. Dekalb area for years. |
| 21 | I am new to the district, so I apologize if I am overlooking historic efforts in the district, but have other wholistic ideas like the community schools model (integrating academics, health/social services, and youth development to support the whole child and surrounding community) been suggested before moving to school closures, particularly in areas like South Dekalb? |
| 22 | How does the discussion at the state level of mandating early learning programs impact this process and DCSD planning? |
| 23 | Will DCSD honor the ratio of 24 students per classroom for elementary school in all schools across the district including those in the new cascading middle schools turned into elementary schools? |
| 24 | I’d like more information about the law/policy that gives schools over 450 (I believe) access to much more personnel through state funding. This seems to dramatically affect our district. What pushback has our district and elected leaders given to the state government to get this policy changed? |
| 25 | Also, McNair DLA has a partnership with Medcura for the school based clinic and Emory University for them to help with attendance and parents. What would happen to that? |
| 26 | I want to know what is the district's position on school-based clinics . There are schools on proposed list for closure or restructuring that have school-based clinics serving the community or equipped to serve. Monies have been spent to construct and operate so what is the district's plans? |
| 27 | How/why are Charter Schools not in this discussion? |
| 28 | how about schools that has been performing well consistently despite management change or different demographic students joining, but still are considered for closing or consolidation? |
| 29 | Can you speak more about cost per pupil, current state, and what DCSD is hoping to accomplish under the restructuring? There was an article covering this yesterday that may have caused some confusion for parents. I want to make sure the parents and community members are clear on the message from the SAP group as they see this covered. Can you clarify with an example of how consolidation hopes to improve or shift this? |
| 30 | In the superintendent’s recent presentation, the focus was framed as enrollment, capacity, and building condition rather than academics. However, the February 13 federally identified schools document highlights schools currently under federal improvement status. Has the district conducted a cross-analysis between those federally identified schools and the facilities scenarios to ensure that decisions based on capacity and building integrity do not unintentionally concentrate intervention schools |
| 31 | Related to equity, I’m also concerned that unless we go to ‘mega’ sized elementary school (perhaps 1-2 feeder schools per middle school) where opportunities for students will be more standardized, the equity gaps will continue. For example, even within certain clusters there are large differences in income and achievement. Is it a potential option that DeKalb consider these very large elementary schools to address these gaps (maybe even substantially larger than the 600 students here)? |
| 32 | Can you please cite the GA DOE regulation stating that 24 students per class is an “ideal”? I am looking and not finding that information at all. I would like a cite to a specific rule or regulation. |
| 33 | What information can we receive and review about the models used for projections round enrollment? They appear flawed as the proposed numbers for 2026 do not align with the actual enrollments we know. |
| 34 | Will Charter school remain charter if the closing and consolidation is approved, and its ago?? |
| 35 | Does the district have Walking policy and if so how many miles etc. |
| 36 | what is going to happen with the closed schools |
| 37 | Why are the proposed scenarios for school closures disproportionate for South DeKalb versus North DeKalb? |
| 38 | Is there any specific area or cluster that has a significant number in decrease in enrollment? |
| 39 | Is there data that supports larger schools? Is there a target enrollment for an elementary school supported by any research or data? |
| 40 | If certain schools are determined as definite for closure later in this process, what will DCSD do to ensure our teachers are retained and students continue to have a positive learning environment during the waiting period between closure announcement and when the students are relocated to other schools? I am referring to active support at the closing facility during that 6-8 year time period, not about preparing for transition or presenting the positive aspects of the change - though I realize this also needs to happen. What will be done to ensure students and the facility continue to receive support from the district in the 6-8 year period (or more) when they are on a closure list? |
| 41 | Slides 23 and 31 reference educational adequacy as a factor. With the Feb 13 federally identified schools list now public, has the district reviewed whether those schools intersect with proposed closures? |
| 42 | Under Dr. Horton, there seemed to be an effort to move toward uniformity across the district in terms of grade bands, start times, etc. Do these recommendations indicate a different approach in which clusters may choose different scenarios that work best for their specific students? |
| 43 | There are scenarios where schools reduce class size and student:teacher ratio. Title I. SPED. If Title I schools are consolidated with non title schools can they lose access to school wide resources? |
| 44 | Will you plan to start students at the same school time that are in different grade bands, but in the same building? ie. Middle School and Elementary School students |
| 45 | Do you anticipate major changes to the school choice program? Are you considering possible ways to use school choice and specific programming to encourage voluntary enrollment at underutilized buildings? |
| 46 | To dovetail onto the community resources question, what happens to the investments and improvements that parents have directly funded (instead of DCSD) in these schools? I can think of so many examples where our ES parents have funded large improvement projects at our school and this school is currently selected for closure in Round 1. |
| 47 | separating the school from the school-based clinic does not seem feasible if no instruction is offered . The students in the school feed the referral to the school-based clinics.. What is the cost of relocating clinic modules to other campuses. These were built with taxpayer monies. How does this make our communities see the district? |
| 48 | Could school choice and programming be used to help ensure schools meet the QBE requirements through voluntary enrollment in order to maximize funding? |
| 49 | Why isn’t foundation money raised included in cost per pupil? |
| 50 | Is Robert shaw being closed or consolidate? |
| 51 | On the transportation side, is it possible to work with MARTA as it rolls out its new MARTA Reach program (specifically for high school and maybe middle school) to advocate for ways to make transportation more convenient for families? |
| 52 | Robert shaw is 11th in dekalb and 171 in Georgia how is right it is on the closing list?? |
| 53 | THANK you for the care and time you have spent with us helping us understand the inns and out of this. |
February 26th Meetings
Cross Keys
In Person Questions
| 1 | Is there recent research that investigates the impact of placing high performing students in low performing schools and classrooms? Are you considering how high performing students will be impacted when they're placed in low performing schools? |
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| 2 | When gifted services were offered at Ashford Park to students that did not qualify or test in to gifted services there was no pushback. No petition or pushback. The tide rose and all students were purported to benefit. Though studies have shown, gifted, high performing and exceptional students suffer when integrated into classes with non-exceptional or non-gifted students. Why would the District wait 6-8 years to integrate Ashford Park and John Lewis elementary, allow Ashford Park to continue retesting failing students to produce higher scores, waste upwards of $23 million of taxpayer dollars on a more than 80yrs old and continue to allow Ashford Park to put numerous /“villas” on a one block lot when John Lewis is under census? |
| 3 | Where are the children from Ashford Park supposed to go? Where are the children from John Lewis supposed to go? |
| 4 | Have institutional investment and nearby real estate markets been included in the data used to forecast enrollments? Influxes of families are occurring and expected due to the recent $2.5B institutional investments in the Druid Hills / Clifton corridor, including the new CHOA Arthur blank hospital. We expect to see more concentrated growth in the lakeside cluster and OGE school area, not structural decline. |
| 5 | What are the potential plans for the schools that may be closed? Will they be sold, repurposed, something else? |
| 6 | Currently Ashford Park Elementary is listed for closure. Ashford Park Elementary has a diversity score of 0.61, and considering county average is 0.62, this is a good score. In the case of permanent closure of Ashford Park, most families will probably get assigned to neighboring schools, Woodward or John Lewis. These schools are not as diverse, with the biggest demographic group having 93-94% population. Have you any redistricting experience where you managed to keep demographic similar to before redistricting? How are you going to ensure better diversity for Ashford Park students after redistricting or permanent closure scenarios? |
| 7 | Ashford Park has 7 acres of land and the Dekalb County Public Schools states it is an outlier for having such a small land. Brookhaven is a growing city, not a rural area. In highly populated areas like New York City and Chicago, some elementary schools have as little as 1 or 3 acres. 7 acres is a lot of space if it is designed smart with multiple stories. Why not rebuild or expand such a high performing school, keep or staff and community together. |
| 8 | The plan for the Dunwoody cluster calls for consolidating Vanderlyn and Kingsley into Chestnut Elementary. Parents are concerned about the traffic around Chestnut and feel it would make more sense to consolidate these three schools into the area presently served by Vanderlyn, possibly with a new Vanderlyn on the same property, similar to what was done recently at the Austin Elementary site. There is more than enough room on this property for a new school to be built while keeping current Vanderlyn open during construction. Please explain the rationale for Chestnut serving as the consolidation school. |
| 9 | What solutions are on the table for students who used to be able to walk to school who will now be too far to do so? Specifically for high schoolers, where truancy is an ongoing concern. If a kid oversleeps, they could still walk in late. If you oversleep and miss the bus, you're stuck at home. |
| 10 | How are we expected to give thoughtful feedback without knowing what will happen with specific programs? I understand the necessity to consolidate but worry about the DLI program my daughter is enrolled in and I don’t feel like I can give honest feedback without knowing the whole picture. |
| 11 | Given student teacher ratios are heavily correlated with student performance, and this project reduces open spaces and teacher counts, both will make these ratios worse. Are student teacher ratios being considered, and if so what are the ratios before and after these changes? If not, justify it. |
| 12 | How was the future enrollment forecasted? Specifically, for Ashford Park? Per data in the SAP dash, the school has seen +47% enrollment growth in prior 10 yrs, and +15% enrollment growth in prior 5 yrs, yet forecast shows a -15% decline in enrollment. |
| 13 | Will the overall cluster impact be considered in the closing of schools? The suggested scenario for the dunwoody cluster would impact the schools listed but it would also push redistricting through many other schools in the cluster. |
| 14 | How can you defend the integrity of your projection data, what’s the logic used to forecast these numbers? |
| 15 | Can you clarify how expanding Montgomery Elementary is a viable option when it’s situated on one of the busiest roads in the area, adjacent to 285? The carpool line already clogs up Ashford Dunwoody Road. |
| 16 | In detail, what is your explanation to the AP ES community when you suggest closing their building with no clear path for 838 students surrounded by at or over capacity buildings? Even more when 2026-2027 projections estimate over 900 students? Provide clear details to “being this conversation” with our community. |
| 17 | What work is being done at the district level to find money and resources that can be reinvested into schools? |
| 18 | If a school is successful, full, and growing, why force it into a preferred large format before the building starts to fail and before there is a proposed plan for using the space. Specifically, why talk about closing Vanderlyn without evaluating the possible uses first expanding the high school which is separated from the Vanderlyn property by large sports fields? |
| 19 | Please explain your 2030 forecasted enrollment of 700 at AP ES when we have 838 today, have increased YOY since COVID, and are projected to have over 900 next school year? Please site your sources and provide explanation to help this community understand? |
| 20 | How can you close a school that’s the most over Capacity when all the schools around us are overcrowded and don’t have room to absorb all Of our students |
| 21 | What was the rationale in moving Ashford Park students across town (minimum 20 minutes without traffic) to Montgomery or Huntley Hills instead of moving AP into John Lewis, a school that is walkable or within a 5 minute drive and in our physical community? In addition to moving us out of our physical community the resources (busing, traffic control) would be additional expenses. |
| 22 | How does the district plan to avoid leaving students in operational limbo while long-term facility and assignment decisions remain unresolved? How are community impacts — including student travel time, neighborhood stability, and family disruption — being weighed alongside cost efficiency? |
| 23 | Why were certain buildings not included in Thai scenario when the scope was clearly defined as buildings? Specifically address the scenario plans for the current Kittredge and Nancy (Cary Reynolds) buildings. |
| 24 | Did you know that the location of Vanderlyn allows for the high school to send student s on foot without crossing traffic to serve for an early education class, after school coding clubs, pep rallies, and invite the elementary to the “big field” for field day including using a real track? |
| 25 | What data has been examined about facilities for administration? There is currently an empty building purchased for 6.5 million that was meant for administration. With enrollment declining, why is administration growing? |
| 26 | Is the SAP parent group a front and the county already knows what they need to happen based on funds? Enrollment will only continue to decline with a lack of transparency from the district |
| 27 | DLI PROGRAMS what happens to students in DLI programs. Where will they continue their immersion language tracks? Where will specialized teachers (DLI and language teachers) be teaching? |
| 28 | Since there is no cascading occurring in or near the Chamblee cluster, what options are there for where to move the nearly 900 students at Ashford Park? John Lewis is essentially full and the other nearby elementary schools are all too far away. |
| 29 | Ashford Park doesn’t meet any of the criteria that was listed to close this school - how do you justify taking this close knit community and separating them and/or closing their school when it doesn’t match the criteria? |
| 30 | What is Dekalb’s plans for school choice programs, like German Immersion, in the SAP plans? Will the program stay in tact? |
| 31 | I heard on the call earlier that the goal if a school closes is to move that community as one unit together to another school. Then the comments in Q&A said otherwise. Our cluster is unique in that several schools in the center of the cluster have few open seats and the schools slated for expansion are towards the edge. This would mean that moving all of the students from either suggested school would require populations in existing schools to be shifted. Will kids at closed schools be moved as a community to reduce disruption? |
| 32 | Modulars seem to be fairly common in many of the DeKalb County Schools. What number of “open seats” are currently in modular buildings today? And what will the future look like with Modular’s? |
| 33 | Why close a high performing school that is over capacity in a strong community? What happens to these 850 kids go? The building of AP is the problem. The community and staff are unparalleled. Where did you get the data that APES forecasted enrollment in 2030 will be 700? |
| 34 | All of the in-person meetings are being held in central or south DeKalb, and none are scheduled in District 1, even though some of the impacted schools are located in the northernmost part of the district. To ensure equitable access and meaningful community feedback, could an in-person meeting also be scheduled in north DeKalb? |
| 35 | How are projected future enrollments calculated. Specifically the data that Ashford Park is projected to have an enrollment of 700 (over 150 fewer students than current enrollment) in 2030? |
| 36 | How much did we pay HPM for their SAP services and for how long have they been supporting these services so far? |
| 37 | Is this focused on neighborhood facilities only? If so, does the scenario imply that theme schools included will be transitioned to neighborhood schools? Ex: Oakcliff, Bouie, Champion |
| 38 | If my child is in K at APES, is it possible that they could be unaffected by SAP if the recc will be made by end of 2026 and changes may take 6+ years? |
| 39 | District criteria require both underutilization and low educational adequacy for closure. Ashford Park is overcrowded and currently receiving facility additions, and the 2022 CMP identified it for rebuild/modernization, not closure. What changed in the last 36 months to shift from ‘rebuild’ to ‘closure’? |
| 40 | Distance has been considered but what about commutes and the impact of increased traffic? If our school is closed, it will force a significant amount of traffic onto already crowded main roads. How will that be managed? |
| 41 | On what date will 2nd phase scenarios we shared with the public? |
| 42 | What metrics are being considered if lots of families leave the district as a result of the SAP decision? What data are you using to determine how it will directly affect funding for the district? |
| 43 | Has the committee considered the likely significant loss of student enrollment and funding if high performing schools like Ashford Park close and a significant portion of their students go to private school? |
| 44 | How are projected enrollments calculated? What is your data source? Curious how Ashford Park is expected to lose 200 students over the next 3 years? |
| 45 | Where do students displaced from (specifically, over utilized) closed facilities enroll when surrounding buildings are themselves already nearing 100% capacity. |
| 46 | Transportation: What will be done to make sure students who live in apartments and areas close to neighborhood schools are able to get to school? Many children who walk to school may need to go to schools much farther away and wake up much much earlier. They may not have the means or support to get to school if they miss the bus. What is the plan to make sure that all children will be supported to attend school and prevent truancy for students without equal support to get to school? |
| 47 | The district’s own 2022 Comprehensive Master Plan identified Ashford Park Elementary as a candidate for rebuilding or major modernization within a five-to-ten-year planning window. That recommendation was based on a district-wide evaluation of facility condition, capacity, and long-term community needs. In other words, after studying the data, the district concluded that Ashford Park warranted investment, not elimination. If the long-range plan once envisioned a new or rebuilt Ashford Park campus, it raises an important question: what has changed so significantly in such a short period of time that closure is now being considered instead of fulfillment of that plan? |
| 48 | What data is being used to redraw the lines? |
| 49 | Why wasn't the performance of a school slated for closure considered as one of the guiding principles? This totally ignores and minimizes the drivers and efforts that lead to good performances, such as particular staff, teachers, and parent community. Uprooting this will have a negative effect on the entire populace, 750 in the example of APES. . |
| 50 | Will any amount of feedback prevent school closures or at least prevent some school closures? |
| 51 | How many rounds of scenarios will there be? |
| 52 | What is the target in cost savings? There will be adverse impact of increasing schools/class sizes what additional resources are being budgeted to mitigate negative student and teacher impacts? |
| 53 | Please explain your rationale for proposing to close Ashford Park Elementary? Ashford Park has nearly 900 students (175% capacity) and is surrounded by other ES at or over capacity. How can you make a decision about closing a building without a plan for those students? |
| 54 | Out of the list of elementary schools on the closure list, all are underutilized except Ashford Park Elementary. With the continued emphasis on underutilized buildings being a drain on resources, can you explain the rationale as to why the most overcrowded school in the district is on this list? |
| 55 | In regards to closing a school (Ashford Park) that is already well over capacity, what is the reasoning behind this decision and WHERE will those 850 students be placed if surrounding schools are either at or over capacity themselves? |
| 56 | Why was HPM chosen for this process and how much have they been paid/will be paid to consult on this? |
| 57 | How many teachers are estimated to be laid off in this change? What is the criteria is being used to retain teachers? What is being done to ensure high performing teachers aren’t lost in attrition? |
| 58 | Grade bands: Please explain the rationale of the 6-12 year bands. This seems like a terrible idea, especially considering high schoolers can be older than 18 and sixth graders can be as young as 12. |
| 59 | What does life look like for a facility if it is/once it is officially slated for closure? In a situation where a school remains open for multiple years in the time between when closures or repurposing is announced and implemented? How do these schools recruit and retain highly qualified teachers to such an unstable situation? |
| 60 | What is the timeline for any expansion projects? From where will the money come? Isn’t the county broke? |
| 61 | The communication has been focused on: "smaller" elementary school are not as efficient or cost effective as larger ones. Why do we need 700+ students in an elementary school? The focus should be on what is best for the children and for the community. Vanderlyn is an incredible community small school which we ALL love and most of us moved into our neighborhoods solely to send our kids to this elementary. If we wanted to send our kids to a large school then we would have |
| 62 | Is it true that the estimated enrollment used in the model for Ashford Park is significantly different than actual enrollment? Is there any fact based plan on where their students would be redistributed that reflects actual available capacity? |
| 63 | Will movement of students from closed schools wait until the expansion or new school projects are completed? Will the development/construction be phased or all these projects started at once? |
| 64 | Where in the facility framework is there an option for shared-site, phased, or joint-campus planning rather than closure? |
| 65 | Describe with clear, measurable goals what savings DCSD plans to achieve with this project and explain how those funds will directly benefit the children in classrooms? Will this finally allow you to meet the standard state requirements for class size without a waiver? |
| 66 | Why is Ashford Park Elementary about to begin a multi million dollar renovation if they are on the list to close? |
| 67 | Why are students being placed in limbo while this is being decided? How are you prioritizing previously approved projects? |
| 68 | What is the thought process in closing an elementary that scores at the top of the district in testing, has 80+% enrollment and loved by the community? |
| 69 | What evidence shows that school closures lead to measurable gains in core student outcomes (achievement, attendance, graduation) beyond operational cost savings? |
| 70 | What is the plan for accommodating closing Vanderlyn elementary? Where will our children go when the other schools in the area are near capacity? |
| 71 | At least one of the ES slated for closure, APES, does not fall under the primary guiding principle of being underenrolled. Also, current student population of more than 750 is not considered a small and costly number (you've indicated the break even line of 500-600). Why was it slated to close and perhaps repopulate to other equally overpopulated ESs? Instead of closing such schools and sending elementary students to mega schools, why not build capacity to existing school? |
| 72 | We are confused why Vanderlyn closure is not dependent on capital investment. Our 475 students will need somewhere to attend school, and there are currently only 283 open seats at the two elementary schools closest to us. Please explain. |
| 73 | How was the decision to prioritize building decisions over school choice and magnet programs made? It feels impossibly difficult to consider building decisions in a vacuum and project enrollments knowing that location and existence of special programs and magnets and charters (GLOBE) will dramatically influence actual attendance and enrollment. |
| 74 | AP ES does NOT meet your criteria for closing elementary school buildings (slides shown tonight). Please explain what justification you have for proposing to close it? |
| 75 | What mechanisms ensure that the financial savings from closures are legally and operationally reinvested into classroom instruction and student services, especially for displaced students? |
| 76 | If class size is going to be reduced, has that been considered when looking at which schools will need to close and how much other schools will need to be expanded? My concern is that class sizes will be maxed out when consolidation occurs and class size maximums are already well above the recommended state guidelines. |
| 77 | Are the closures and school conversions projected to withstand demand for decades to come, not just fix our “now” problem or will the community need to constantly be shifting buildings in this way indefinitely? |
| 78 | How specifically was Ashford Parks 2030 projected enrollment of 700 determined in the data released with the initial round of scenarios? Please answer specifically, not broadly. |
| 79 | Vanderlyn was the highest-performing elementary school in DeKalb County last year. It is fully enrolled. And it has deep, consistent parent involvement and community support. And yet the proposal is to shut the doors and scatter these kids and teachers across other buildings, hoping the magic somehow follows them. It won't. We all know that. Why would we risk breaking something that works in order to trim a spreadsheet? Why is it on this list? |
| 80 | I feel strongly that kids 6-12 grade should not be combined. The physical size and maturity of this range is too great. Having experienced this myself in Gwinnett county, many conflicts and inappropriate relationships developed. |
| 81 | Has the consulting firm considered K-8, upper/lower campus options for elementary/middle grades? |
| 82 | It would be helpful to know what options may happen with scenarios. Ie. Ashford Park has 822 students. The other elementary schools in the cluster have only about 200 open elementary seats at other schools. Same with McClendon there are not many open seats at other schools. What options is the country considering on where to move students for both Ashford Park and McClendon? |
| 83 | I reject the notion that school performance should not be considered. Will school performance be considered in the next phase? Where is the data that shows these mega elementary schools benefit children? Was it considered that releasing these school names as possible closures would impact enrollment for the 26-27 school year? Our school’s, Oak Grove Elementary, enrollment has increased every year since Covid. |
| 84 | Having kids grade 6-12 seems like a very harsh situation for children during some of their hardest developmental years. Is there a psychological rationale on splitting and combining grades differently than pk-5, 6-8 and 9-12? Is it just a financial decision? |
| 85 | Why would you propose to close the building and thus break up one of your highest performing schools? Do you not want to expand schools that are serving their students so well and achieving so much? |
| 86 | For schools marked for closures that have low facility scores, how is the district planning to maintain a safe learning environment for students for 6-8 years? |
| 87 | With a school that has 6th-12th, how could you ensure the safety of the younger children? There are risks of bullying or inappropriate language/advances from older students to younger. With funding issues, security could be a risk. |
| 88 | Will tonight's slides be available online? |
| 89 | What is your communication plan for your teachers on the front line? Provide details and explain why so many teachers have been left with little communication and fear for the future of their job? Describe your specific plans to retain our amazing teachers and recruit during this process. |
| 90 | I do not support the PreK-3 banding model. This format causes more transitions during early years which can be hard to it also removes the available leadership opportunities that now exist for 4/5 graders sharing a building such as:safety patrol, reading buddies, and more |
| 91 | What will the schools closed down be torn down? |
| 92 | I’ve heard lots of scenarios, but what is the current plan for the students going to Ashford Park if the building is closed? There have to be ideas/solutions that the district is strongly considering, and I don’t understand why these scenarios haven’t been shared with the public. |
| 93 | Will a March session be added at a high school within region one for the interactive solution finding process? |
| 94 | The bait and switch from SAP at the district level is disappointing; you said at first that programs would be discussed and then you went immediately to building closures. Is the SAP committee just a facade? |
| 95 | Are there any thoughts to expanding the Pre-K program to make up for empty upper grade seats? If more kids go to Pre-K at the schools, it stands to follow that more families would stay within DeKalb county schools and continue to fill seats. |
| 96 | You said in your talk "Buildings are supposed to serve demographics" How can we talk about buildings without knowing if the school we get assigned to have the programs to support our children? |
| 97 | Was negative or positive economic impact considered during the closure selections? |
| 98 | The recommendations made only consider symptoms of the problems. They do NOT address the root cause at all. Why does your primary solution not address that solely? And how will do that instead of addressing the symptoms? |
| 99 | When was closing 30 schools first proposed and why did the parents that participated in the SAP process find out about the proposed closers so late in the process? |
| 100 | Why would you put a school on a closure list that is approved for a 27 million dollar renovation? That makes the community feel as though there is a plan the district already has in mind esp since SAP was completely in the dark about this scenario. |
| 101 | How can Sarita Smith not be here? |
| 102 | It is clearly stated in the presentation that small schools (under-450) are defined as ‘under-enrolled’ and inefficient and therefore undesirable. But what if we don’t share that assumption? You said that we are not to comment on our preferences over low-cost, robust programming, and small school size. How can we offer quality feedback when you’ve decided for us that small schools are unviable? |
| 103 | Are you going to share cluster level data utilization and empty seats? I understand in some areas in county empty seats is a problem but in our area, Chamblee HS (ashford park elementary) crowding is the problem and there aren't enough building capacity. So when you list the benefits of SAP, i don't see how the foreseed benefits apply to my community |
| 104 | Has the committee explored scenarios or run the numbers of what would happen to the district budget if families leave as a result of the sap decision? |
| 105 | For the grade band scenarios in which a middle school feeder need is eliminated, please consider the safety of smaller, young children in the same building with older, more mature children. The risk of inappropriate behavior and exposure to age inappropriate activities is real. Has any of this been considered while weighing the efficiencies of building usage. As parents, this is top priority and of utmost concern during critical development years of students. |
| 106 | How are students themselves being engaged in this process, particularly those who may be directly affected by potential consolidation or program relocation? |
| 107 | What phase would start first? When would closures begin to happen? |
| 108 | Please provide the ballpark coat range to expand a 500 seat school to a 600 school- the estimated high and estimated minimum. |
| 109 | What is the rationale behind proposing closing schools without giving any information on what will happen to the displaced students? How can we provide feedback if we don’t know the overall picture? |
| 110 | Where is Sarita Smith? |
| 111 | How did this process take into account academic parity between schools in a cluster? |
| 112 | So looking at the HPM portfolio, you have run this model in many districts. Which elements of this particular HPM model are standardized and which are customized for DeKalb? |
| 113 | For the love of Pete, who thinks it’s a good idea to have 6th graders (11-12 yo) in school with ages 16 and 18? It seems like potential for bullying and abuse would be a huge risk. What will be done to make sure the younger children are safe? |
| 114 | Cited rationale for the proposed recommendations often refers to “a multitude of factors.” Prior to formal consideration of school closure, will there be a specific, written rationale issued for each school closure decision? |
| 115 | Do your enrollment projections account for homeowners staying in their homes longer, reducing turnover of families with elementary-aged children? NAR data shows the typical homeowner now stays about 11 years, and that number continues to rise. |
| 116 | How is it such that you can hold a vote on a final, recommended scenario this fall when you won’t know until many months later if the funding necessary will be approved by voters? |
| 117 | Wouldn’t it be more fiscally prudent to change the $25M renovation at AP to a more meaningful rebuild that adds capacity and addresses core issues? |
| 118 | Why is redistricting first not being considered before school closures so that we can better see where students will be going to school? |
| 119 | I understand that we will hear about attendance boundaries and programs at a future stage - when can we expect to hear about how staff will be impacted by any changes? |
| 120 | Why are we considering closing a school (Ashford Park) that we are spending $25 million to renovate? |
| 121 | Are you considering splitting kids from a school that you are closing into two other schools or would we be merging with just one other school? |
| 122 | At Ashford park, our teachers are feeling VERY in the dark about this process and their job security. Can you commit to providing the teachers more information in a timely manner? We will undoubtedly lose great staff for job security elsewhere. |
| 123 | What is your ideal size for an elementary school? Both the square footage of the building and the land that it sits on? Does a 2 story building suffice or is that detrimental? |
| 124 | Instead of closing school, have you considered moving admin offices into unused areas of schools? |
| 125 | Research shows that small buildings benefit small children. Why would you send small children to a larger building where they are less comfortable. |
| 126 | The up keep of facilities in Dekalb County has historically been missed. This has created many facilities which are no longer up to code and in disrepair. Ashford Park is one of those schools. It makes sense, based SOLEY on the state of the facility, to close it. How will Dekalb ensure the up keep of buildings so that high achieving schools are not put on a closure list? |
| 127 | For the subsequent phases of SAP, will boundary and program decisions mean that Dekalb building closure decisions be revisited? Or will SAP/the community make final building decisions and THEN consider boundaries and special programs? I can appreciate working in phases, but it’s also incredibly important to note that each distinct category greatly impacts the others. To some extent, I’d think that those decisions need to be made together, so how does SAP/HPM plan to incorporate feedback holistically? |
| 128 | If Ashford Park Elementary is absorbed by Montgomery Elementary, how will traffic on Ashford Dunwoody Road by managed? |
| 129 | PUT THE WRITTEN QUESTIONS ON THE FAQ!!! Answer the peoples questions tonight |
| 130 | What scenarios are currently proposed for Kittredge Magnet School? I understand consolidation within another school or program may be on the table but what is the current SAP Phase 1 proposal as it was not listed on the plan. |
| 131 | Will educator have to reapply when they are transitioned to another school or will they move with the students? |
| 132 | Right now you only want to talk about buildings - are you wanting to make decisions on building before tackling boundaries and programs? It seems that you can’t make a definitive choice, especially for those buildings currently over overcapacity, without considering boundaries and programs when those building decisions will affect all aspects. |
| 133 | Your numbers do not account for the high volume of home and private school students that have increasing chosen to come back to public schools. How are you accounting for this volume? Please site specific sources and explain the inaccuracies (e.g., 50 children in the current AP ES attendance zone). The numbers provided by DCSD to SAP FAR underestimate the number of school aged children. |
| 134 | If you close AP, but repurpose the building, how does that save money? |
| 135 | One of the stated reasons for this process is for financial reasons. If unused buildings are not offloaded how will the county regain financial solvency? |
| 136 | What are the very specific monetary goals of SAP? I hear vague references to equity and efficiency, but what is the actual cost savings per building closure. How does a repurpose of a building save money? What is the quantitative monetary savings goal of SAP? How will savings be allocated for spending? |
| 137 | Why are just talking about buildings when no other people but district administrators think that way? Why cant we discuss our shared priorities over small school/low-cost/robust programing before talking about scenarios? |
| 138 | Is there a clear objective or goal? Cost savings? Class sizes? This feels like a vague unclear process with unclear goals as it relates in particular to schools that are in no way underutilized |
| 139 | Why is the Dekalb Path Academy and its building not part of the evaluation? |
| 140 | Why isn’t Kittredge mentioned on any of the building plans? What is the current status of this school in the building discussion? |
| 141 | When considering schools for closure - you don’t mention projected future use as an evaluation measure, but was this considered when slating a school for closure? It sounds like you have this data currently. For example, does projected land value go into consideration at all? |
| 142 | In the north of the county, how do you close without any cascading capacity available? |
| 143 | Will you publish questions and answers for us to review after tonight's meeting? |
| 144 | Considering the district is reducing buildings, service areas and transportation services. And it is currently built, and budgeted to serve 110K students; but now serves 90+ K students. Will there be a reduction in BOE budget that will be reflected in our property taxes? |
| 145 | Is there a publicly available cost-savings analysis with implementing the SAP vs improving existing buildings and redrawing boundaries for enrollment gaps? Currently, Dresden is undergoing a 76M expansion to consolidate 2 ES, ballooning from the initial 42M budget presented for ESPLOST voting. Is this what we can expect for the SAP implementation? Shouldn’t we delay this process and use Dresden as a use-case to learn about consolidation impacts? |
| 146 | Will community members be able to utilize mapping data with demographics to help outline potential scenarios and contribute meaningful feedback to the SAP committee that’s grounded in reality? Also, is there going to be any attempt to ensure that current data is updated? Enrollment numbers listed are not accurate for our elementary school, Ashford Park, so it’s hard to rely on any of the data points, knowing that there are schools with significant inaccuracies. |
| 147 | The lower globe campus was closed last year. It sits empty and neglected, and has attracted squatters. If the county cannot handle one small campus, how will they handle the repurposing of 27? |
| 148 | For closed schools being closed and repurposed, who is paying for cost of renovations, assuming renovations will be needed to repurpose building? Is cost coming out of education funds still? |
| 149 | Tracy said that they want to keep entire schools together. So you’re going to move the entire population of Lithonia HS to another school at once? Demographically these students live in different neighborhoods. |
| 150 | If you are planning on changing/redrawing boundary lines, how in any scenario can you guarantee to keep a community together? |
| 151 | Does teacher FTE only get unlocked when class sizes go above the max number determined by the county, or is there any scenario where schools get FTE budget for less than the max number? |
| 152 | If families from high performance schools are redistributed to lower performance schools there is a high probability those families will leave Dekalb County and find alternative education. This is lost funding for Dekalb and also does not support the goal of filling empty school capacity. Is this a consideration in the boundaries work? |
| 153 | How do you justify spending money - 25 million- to renovate a building that you are projecting to close |
| 154 | Traffic on Lavista / Briarlake would be a nightmare if oak grove students were being moved to Briarlake. Same goes for the neighborhood streets at Sagamore Hills. It was mentioned that cohorts would be kept together but I don’t see how that is possible in the Oak Grove situation. Neither Briarlake nor Sagamore Hills has the capacity to take on Oak Grove students without significant expansion projects. In an earlier session, it was mentioned that no students would move to a new location until the new location has been expanded and construction completed. But what happens to those students already attending the location while construction is happening. I can’t imagine that would be an ideal learning environment. When will the data be updated to reflect the correct projected enrollment for Oak Grove? The projected growth has been significantly lower than the actual enrollment for several years by a notable amount. We are projected to be at 96% utilization for the 26-27 school year. |
| 155 | Why do you run questions through this app? It creates distrust. Get people in a line one by one to get on the microphone. This makes it look like you’re hiding |
| 156 | Why did Dekalb county purchase an additional admin building last year when they were actively looking at schools that needed to close? That’s being a good steward of money when open building would be available soon! |
| 157 | Does your 2030 projection data consider the impact of this project? APES is projected (in your data) to be 700 students for 2030 - the school is currently well over that number and would likely be farther over at that point. Are you projecting students to move out of the area based on the impact of this project? |
| 158 | Is there a particular financial or resource goal that SAP is trying to achieve? With each school closure or boundary line redrawn, a community is disrupted. So is there a goal that the county wants to reach, so that they don’t need to make more changes after fiscal needs are satisfied? |
| 159 | How much are you weighing the money being spent on this absurd process into which scenario is chosen? |
| 160 | Why is enrollment decreasing in some parts of the county and increasing in other parts like chamblee, brookhaven, and dunwoody? |
| 161 | The answer of how enrollment projections are made is unsatisfactory. How will obvious errors be addressed in the case of Ashford Park? |
| 162 | Your enrollment numbers for Ashford Park is wrong. You have us going down and yet next year we’re projected in the 900s. How do you justify your 99.9% accuracy? |
| 163 | I understand that some schools will need to close - I’m not arguing with that! I also understand that there are efficiencies achieved at larger scales, and that, in theory, saves money that is, in turn, freed up for other educational purposes. What evidence do you have, though, that more “efficiently” run schools create better instructional outcomes per students? |
| 164 | The 2022 Comprehensive Master Plan (CMP) identified Ashford Park as a candidate for a full rebuild or modernization within a 5–10 year horizon, which has already started. However, the SAP scenario list us for closure/repurposing. What changed in the last 36 months to flip a 'rebuild' recommendation into a 'closure' recommendation? |
| 165 | Did representatives from the consulting firm walk each facility to conduct a property condition assessment? If so, how do we gain access to the PCA for our school? If not, how did you get comfortable with the adequacy score you assigned to facilities? |
| 166 | What was the process for determining whether a facility could be rebuilt or added on to? |
| 167 | It’s extremely disappointing how so much is being said without any true conversation with the community. |
| 168 | Regarding birth data, it was stated they track birth location by county. Many Dekalb resident children are born in Fulton at Northside hospital. Is that accounted for in projected birth rates? |
| 169 | How much are you considering the impact to property value of housing due to a redistricting to an underperforming school? |
| 170 | What would happen to the already underway construction for Ashford park and the approved funds for the renovations/improvements if it were to close? |
| 171 | What happens to the $25 million dollar renovation project underway at Ashford Park ES? |
| 172 | Is Ashford Park firmly and fully considered unexpandable, unrecoverable with no possibility of bringing to standard through renovation or rebuild? |
| 173 | Please give specifics on what exactly is challenging about building on the APES lot? |
| 174 | Is Ashford park part of esplost? Does that impact timeline and if so how? |
| 175 | How will you ensure high quality education and top educators continue at schools where buildings will be closed? It doesn’t seem enticing to educators to remain at schools that are closed. |
| 176 | Can we get an actual land assessment and an expert evaluation of what’s possible to do at Ashford Park? We need visibility into that. |
| 177 | How much are we compensating HPM? As we talk about timelines, how are their fees paid? Monthly? Yearly? Lump sum? |
| 178 | Please explain your rationale for making impactful facility decisions without concurrently addressing the boundary impacts of these decisions? Closing a facility without a clear plan on resulting boundaries limits families’ abilities to make informed decisions about their children’s educational futures |
| 179 | Is there an opportunity for public / private partnerships when considering building improvements? |
| 180 | Could you let us know what the commitee currently considers an ideal school in Dekalb county ( attendance, capacity, parking, etc)? |
| 181 | Property values are directly related to school districts. What consideration are you giving to property values declining if boundaries are redrawn? |
| 182 | If my child is moved from APES to another ES, what are the chances they will be moved out of the chamblee cluster? My LARGEST concern. |
| 183 | You cannot completely separate buildings & boundaries discussion - these are a simultaneous discussion. The discussion has to be happening simultaneously. WILL YOU share the boundaries data immediately (as a “discussion”, just like the “building discussion” we are having today)? |
| 184 | What would happen to the staff and teachers of closed schools? How would they be incentivized to stay in DeKalb county schools? With public school teacher attrition, it would be awful to lose some of our best admin and teachers |
| 185 | Demographic changes, as per your presentation, are one of the issue. The other is loss of child to other districts and private schools. Do you know why people are choosing to not go to public school here, and how does your plan adress this. As a pointer, one of the most commonly stated reason is “close-knitted community, class and school size, would the mega school you want to create help or just further the exodus? |
| 186 | What will the capacity be at cross keys high, Sequoyah middle, and Sequoyah high school when construction is completed? |
| 187 | Dunwoody would love to consider giving up some parking and additional land to support replacement parking to allow the high school to expand into its current parking lots |
| 188 | Where do you expect to put all of the students in an area with a growing population that will not have a building nearby as is the case for the area between Ashford Park and Montgomery? |
| 189 | Are teachers considered part of the community when you talk about keeping the community together? |
| 190 | If your priority is to keep student populations intact when you are closing a school, how will you manage that when the elementary school being closed has 800 students? |
| 191 | How do you plan to address the current lack of trust that parents have with district leadership given the administrative problems that the district has faced in recent years? |
| 192 | In the short term, there is concern that teacher retention will be a problem at a school currently on a “closure list”. Who wants to come teach at a school they may have to leave? How does this attract talent? |
| 193 | If you pick up an entire school community and move it as a whole to a different facility, can their teachers and administrative staff all follow? |
| 194 | Teacher displacements are anticipated. This is a capital improvement project, so then are we to understand that teachers list are included as “human capital” improvement? |
| 195 | Why are you only asking for questions and not asking for actual feedback? At what point will you actually seek feedback from more qualified experts (vs who you’ve already connected with) in construction, real estate, capital deployment, utilization optimization, etc. to drive better alternatives? |
| 196 | We left our children to be here tonight and I don’t appreciate being shown the same 20-minute video and then the district reps handpicking which questions to answer, including a ton that were not about buildings (ie, teacher retention, etc.) It did not feel like open communication at all. At what point in the process will it feel like that? |
| 197 | Can Dekalb pay for all of this new construction with our esplost? |
| 198 | Why do you feel that a $25 million renovation created for a current specific school setting should move forward, if the future of the building and its uses is unknown? |
| 199 | Will school performance be factored in to any redistricting decisions, or will it strictly be a geographic/facilities decision? |
| 200 | Why are we not being given the opportunity to speak verbally when this forum was advertised as “let your voice be heard.” When that courtesy was given to the Cedar Grove community, we should be given the same courtesy. |
| 201 | When closing a high performance school, do take into consideration the amount of students that would leave the district / public school system , putting additional pressure on the attendance. |
| 202 | Have you considered that your current position phase 1 recommendation is likely to exacerbate your the very problem you’re trying to address (ie, it will move dramatically more people out of Dekalb County)? Again, you’re addressing symptoms not root causes (ie, why are students leaving Dekalb to go further north for better public schools??)? |
| 203 | If DCSD has one or more schools with grade 6-12 bands, how is the district going to ensure the safety and well-being of the 10-11 year-old students ON BUSES with older students, including 18 year olds? Will there be bus monitor personnel in addition to drivers? |
| 204 | How will after school programs be impacted. Will consolidation reduce or increase after school seats? |
| 205 | Is anyone involved in the process someone who experienced the opening of Austin elementary? The Dunwoody cluster went round and round and neighbors argued and it was hard. The suggestion of closing and revisiting boundaries again brings a lot of emotion to this cluster. If it’s not necessary, we’d like to evaluate avoiding it. |
| 206 | Why is a 6-12 band scenario not a solution for capacity? Ie. In the Columbia cluster the middle school is at 25% utilization and the high school is at 38%. Would combining them solve two issues: centralizes the middle school if it was combined with the high school and solve the utilization issue for the high school building? |
| 207 | Is the District considering “grandfathering” students who have already started at a school and are nearing completion of a phase of their education at that school? Changing schools can be very stressful for students (and families). |
| 208 | Knowing the research supporting minimal academic transitions for students during their educational careers, what conversations have been had regarding “grandfathering” students and families into current buildings and attendance zone? |
| 209 | The intent of this project is to curb a drastic enrollment decline. Are you concerned about further enrollment decline after this is completed, if neighborhood schools like Ashford Park are closed or moved to a different high school cluster than they are currently zoned for? |
| 210 | If the schools that are possibly closing are going to be repurposed how does closing the schools as it is save the county money? |
| 211 | Can you please consider temporarily moving all of APES together (John Lewis building) and then repair the current AP building and move them back? |
| 212 | Why won’t you show the questions and let the audience up vote what they want answered? |
| 213 | In future meetings - we must have visibility to questions asked, and we would like to vote on questions that get asked out loud. The only questions answered were addressed by the power point presentation 1hr ago - this is not helpful. And yes, Ashford park needs a dedicated meeting. Show us the data, give us visibility into the possibilities |
| 214 | For future meetings and data collection, how should parents identify their affiliation if one or more of their students are in a School Choice school that is not their home district? |
| 215 | What are the cost-savings goals and benchmarks for success in the SAP project? For example, how many net dollars are expected to be saved after closures, expansions, boundary changes, transportation adjustments, etc. How do we know this SAP project is working to actually stop the hemorrhaging of funds for those 20K seats? |
| 216 | In schools that you have Modular’s today you have space for construction of wings many of the times. The rationale seems to ignore this fact generally |
| 217 | How did you just ignore the rest of the questions we submitted? |
| 218 | How will cities provide input to ensure our infrastructure can catch up and or meet the needs of shifts in traffic and movement to make for safe passage to and from school? |
| 219 | How much money are you paying the contractor. |
| 220 | Have you received a single bit of positive feedback on this process? |
| 221 | If the entire community is against this is there a chance that no change is made? |
| 222 | When you consider the closures slated in north dekalb and even account for the expansions, there is not enough seat availability for all of the displaced students. How can we consider buildings without knowing the full picture? |
| 223 | Scope and Utilization The SAP committee was originally advised to expect between 8–24 school closures. The current proposal lists 27 schools. This level of reduction appears more aggressive than previously communicated. If the stated goal is to operate buildings at 85–90% utilization, the current projections do not seem to support that outcome. For example, in the North—specifically within the Dunwoody, Chamblee, Lakeside, Druid Hills, and Cross Keys clusters—if all proposed elementary closures were implemented (assuming expansions increase capacity to 984 seats per elementary school), utilization would reach approximately 106%. This exceeds the target range and raises concerns about long-term sustainability. |
| 224 | Ashford Park Elementary as an Outlier As explained in the HPM video, the criteria for elementary school closure included: 1) Underutilized buildings, 2) Schools that could be absorbed through cascading use, and 3) Schools with low building adequacy located near facilities with excess capacity. By this rationale, many of the proposed closures are understandable. However, Ashford Park Elementary appears to be an outlier. Ashford Park is located in a high-density neighborhood and is currently operating at approximately 175% utilization. Enrollment projections for next school year exceed 900 students, which contradicts the forecasted decline suggested in the HPM model. There is no neighboring school with sufficient excess capacity to absorb 843 students. John Lewis Elementary, located 1.1 miles away, has 817 students in a 984-seat building—leaving insufficient capacity to accommodate Ashford Park’s 843 students. Other neighboring schools are more than 3 miles away, which presents significant logistical challenges due to roadway and traffic constraints. Additionally, Ashford Park is currently undergoing a $26 million renovation. If the building were to be repurposed, it would require retrofitting to serve a different student population, raising concerns about whether the current investment represents the most strategic use of funds. |
| 225 | Clarity on Cluster Alignment For Ashford Park families to support the proposed scenario, greater clarity is needed regarding the cluster feeder pattern. Specifically: Where will the 843 students be reassigned? Will the community remain intact or be divided? Will the current student population (not necessarily the building) remain within the Chamblee Cluster? For the majority of families, maintaining alignment with the Chamblee Cluster is a higher priority than preserving the physical building itself. Clear communication about the cluster trajectory would allow the community to make a more informed decision. |
In Person Questions - Continued
| 226 | Trust and Transparency DCSD faces a trust challenge due to past financial irresponsibility and lack of transparency. As a result, some community members approach large-scale initiatives such as SAP with skepticism. Given this context, presenting only a portion of the overall plan heightens concern. During the 3/24 virtual meeting, Sarita Smith stated: “We’re chunking the information. We could have presented it all at once with our plans for buildings, boundaries, and programs, but thought it would be too much to digest at one time.” This approach may lead stakeholders to conclude: 1) A comprehensive plan already exists but has not yet been shared. 2) Community input may have limited influence if the overall framework is already determined. 3) The community is being shielded from the full scope of change, which can feel dismissive—particularly to SAP committee members who have invested more than 20 months in this work. At the 1/21 Board retreat, McGinnis noted, “If you come to our communities with half a plan, people will feel like you’re trying to pull one over on them.” Despite this warning, the current approach risks reinforcing that perception and missing an opportunity to rebuild trust. Moving forward, providing more comprehensive detail—even if the information is difficult—would demonstrate respect for stakeholders and strengthen credibility. Transparent communication, paired with genuine incorporation of feedback, is essential to restoring trust. |
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| 227 | Community Feedback Process The format of gathering community feedback for this first iteration of scenarios has been concerning. The SAP committee and broader community were informed that multiple scenarios would be presented; however, only one option was shared. Providing meaningful feedback is challenging when alternative scenarios are not available for comparison. Additionally, presenting information solely about buildings—without simultaneously addressing boundaries and programs—creates confusion and uncertainty. If a building is proposed for closure, families understandably want to know where students will be reassigned. While some cascading use was identified in the south, the absence of this detail in other areas has increased anxiety. Additionally, I have concerns regarding the structure of the community meetings. Flyers advertised the sessions with the message: “Your voice matters; share feedback on potential school closure and consolidation scenarios.” However, no public comment period was allowed during virtual meetings or the 3/22 meeting at the AIC. Also, restricting comments and questions that are school- or cluster-specific is problematic. If the intent is to gather insight from communities about unique priorities or context that may not be apparent through data alone, stakeholders must be given the freedom to speak to those specifics. Finally, the timeline raises questions about how community input will meaningfully inform the second iteration. The survey collects responses through 3/8, and the revised scenarios are scheduled to be presented to the Board on 3/16. In the HPM video, it was stated that “The community voice is just as important as the data.” Given the short turnaround time, it is difficult to understand how feedback can be thoroughly analyzed and incorporated. If the second iteration does not visibly reflect the majority of community input, trust may be further strained. |
Virtual
Virtual Questions
| 1 | I listened to the board retreat yesterday and Whitney McGinniss said that starting “buildings first” is a “best practice.” Can you share that reference? I have participated in school closings in another district as an employee and am unfamiliar with the research. |
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| 2 | Is this meeting starting soon? |
| 3 | What is the estimated ballpark construction estimate to expand a 500 seat school to a 600 seat school? |
| 4 | When will proposed redistricting maps be shared? |
| 5 | Can you clearly outline the full iteration schedule between the Round Two presentation in March and any potential board vote? How many additional public revisions should the community expect? |
| 6 | How exactly will equity be operationalized in Round Two? What specific equity indicators are being measured and how are they weighted relative to utilization and facility condition? |
| 7 | does the enrollment forecasts include school choice? IE Oak Grove currently has a wait list for school choice where it would meet that % threshold? |
| 8 | So fall 2027? |
| 9 | We are being asked to evaluate the school closures, but the impact modeling hasn't been shared. Based, again on the school specific rational, Kingsley is looking at being pushed into an expanded Chesnut, but no notes are made about how Vanderlyn's kids might be moved. There are not 483 open seats in any one existing school within the cluster. To me, that indicates that the intention is to divide up these students across multiple schools PLUS redistrict existing schools to make room within reasonable traveling distance. I think if you want feedback, all the schools in the district need to understand how they will be impacted and not just the ones you're considering closing. In addition, the VES community is a tight-knit unit. We have families who have had multiple siblings go through school together including current students up to those in high school now. You're not just proposing closing the building, the current scenario proposes diving up this community amongst several schools. With that the Dunwoody co |
| 10 | Can you explain further what the funding would be like for a school selected to be closed? Specifically, will the school be fully supported up until close? Would there be a reduction in school recourses, available extracurricular activities or access to qualified teachers? How are students affected by the upcoming closure when it is selected? |
| 11 | Will the enrollment projections, utilization thresholds, and modeling assumptions used by HPM in Round Two be made publicly available so the community can understand how conclusions were reached? |
| 12 | Will the enrollment projections, utilization thresholds, and modeling assumptions used by HPM in Round Two be made publicly available so the community can understand how conclusions were reached? |
| 13 | In the initial assessment, was School Choice Enrollment considered when determining whether each ES was at capacity? |
| 14 | community as a whole will be hurt and meaningful part of the experience in our community will be impacted. |
| 15 | How can you make those decisions independently of one another? Those decisions are inextricably linked. (e.g. # of students at school closed down vs location and available spots at schools which are close by) |
| 16 | Why does the district keep using the term scenario, we have not been provided with scenarios, just a list? Why were Dekalb stakeholders not provided with full scenarios like APS stakeholders and we used the same company? |
| 17 | Right now, the scenarios identify schools for closure, but the impact modeling hasn’t been shared. How can families meaningfully respond to a closure proposal without understanding where students would go and whether capacity exists? |
| 18 | How come approved/underway renovations were not factored in when calculating facility scores? |
| 19 | I noted that Vanderlyn is listed for closure without any consideration of a needed capital investment. Which indicates to me, that Vanderlyn is considered for closure even if the high school doesn't get an approved expansion. Given that Vanderlyn doesn't meet any closure requirements outside of the cascading effect I don't believe there should be any plan to close the school until there is a plan in place showing what benefits could come to the high school and whether the county can afford those upgrades. As that evaluation happens, why not consider what part of the Vanderlyn property could serve the high school without demolishing a building that remains in safe, usable, shape? What this study doesn't consider is how the high school and the elementary school collaborate with after school clubs, an early education class, pep rallies, and field days. By removing this building, you're removing those enrichments also. -- We propose collaboration over closure. |
| 20 | Right now you’re asking for feedback on possible building closures and consolidations based on capacity numbers, but we haven’t seen information about potential Programs changes. Programs changes can really affect enrollment and building use, with students returning to their zoned schools. How are these possible changes being factored into the numbers behind buildings scenarios? |
| 21 | The state code on school closures says that when done, displaced students must be sent to a “convenient” school. If you do not have actual seats for the students who would be displaced from schools at full capacity because of expansion, will those closures be presented to the board in the fall? Would those be submitted after ESPLOST? |
| 22 | Is HPM a consulting firm for school consolidation or were they hired for capital optimization for ESPLOST 2027? |
| 23 | If Vanderlyn doesn't meet any of the 5 metrics, and it is one of the highest performing schools, and the high school has not been evaulated and planned for expansion, why is it on the close list? |
| 24 | Does DCSD have a policy to ensure that students who are in their high school years when redistricting takes place can remain in the school in which they were previously zoned? If so, what is that specific policy? |
| 25 | Who do we contact when we find that the data you've gathered and published on the dashboard is verifiably incorrect? |
| 26 | Regarding enrollment projections, will they get corrected? Using outdated data seems problematic, especially when some schools expect to have almost 200 more students than what's projected. |
| 27 | Oak Grove enrollment for 2026-2027 is shown incorrectly on the dashboard - it should be 487, which is 96% utilitization. We have reached out via email to address this and were advised to bring this up in community sessions. Other schools have brought up errors in data in previous community sessions and were referred back to the dashboard. Please let us know who is able to review this further and correct known data errors when they are identified and brought to the SAP team. As the current stage is driven by data, it's important that the information is as accurate as possible. Thank you for your help in ensuring the data is correct. |
| 28 | What research was consulted regarding the outcomes of students based on school sizes? Stated differently, do we understand how children do, academically and socially, in larger vs. smaller schools? |
| 29 | The data in the HPM enrollment projections show Oak Grove decreasing in enrollment next year but our school has already showcased an increased projection of +40 students putting us as an anticipated 96% utilization. Will HPM be updating their projections to align with the county 2026-2027 projections? |
| 30 | Can you please help us understand how can you make those decisions - shutting down buildings & redistricting boundaries- independently of one another? Those decisions are inextricably linked. (e.g. # of students at school closed down vs location and available spots at schools which are close by). |
| 31 | Hello, is there any studies that support a larger school with larger class size improve the learning and experience students have. I believe instead starting with cutting schools, we should start with auditing of the district for waste, 7 million towards a school never built, also the whole Hittin The Road With Horton debacle, 9,000 at Jimmy John’s on the district credit card, and he currently has a Federal Indictment, the district itself has had several bad leaders maybe get that in line first |
| 32 | The statement that you are looking at buildings first and then programs is directly contradicted by the fact that this buildings proposal omits programs buildings (ie Kitteredge and others). You’re saying one thing and doing another, giving the impression that some decisions have already been made or that some changes to your process have already occurred because some stakeholders have initially been louder than others. Why were some educational buildings removed from the facilities analysis? |
| 33 | Why aren’t some schools like Kittredge included in the scenarios that were shared? |
| 34 | Why is a ~600 student capacity considered a benchmark? Are all schools in the country built to accommodate 600 students? Where is this number coming from? |
| 35 | What is the plan for making sure that special needs kids get the services they need in these large 600 person elementary schools? When my son was at one of these larger elementary schools in Dekalb it was significantly understaffed to support the kids needing services. There was only 1 SLP and a floater OT on staff. My non-verbal autistic child only recieved 1 thirty minute speech session a week, and there were 2 other kids with him. He did not recieve any OT services because they did not have the staff to give him the services he needed. Early intervention is imperative for our special needs kids, and Dekalb has failed miserably in this area within the larger elementary schools. We specifically moved to Oak Grove Elementary zone because they are great with providing services for special needs kids. How do you plan to make sure our special needs kids will receive as good of services and inclusion classrooms with 2 teachers, that smaller schools like OGE are providing now? |
| 36 | Similarly, why was Oak Grove slated for closure when it performs better than Briarlake and Sagamore on all the metrics? |
| 37 | I am repeating my question asking for the references that the “buildings first” approach is a best practice as a comment. The video presents it as a HPM philosophy. This is actually not a “non-negotiable” for me as a parent and voter based on the data presented this far and other districts methods. HPM and DeKalb will need to show references from research. The body of research on school closure does not align with this. |
| 38 | Some of the schools noted in expansion for example Montgomery elementary school are already overcapacity with trailers to accommodate students. How will capacity be added here? |
| 39 | Matt, community members have done that and the repsonse is always, "Please come to a meeting to share that info." We can't all arrive at the meetings, especially to correct data that a firm is being paid multiple millions of dollars to collect. |
| 40 | How much does Kittredge Magnet School cost for the size and the number of students it serves, not to mention it pulls from other schools performance scores since you’re taking the higher students away from them |
| 41 | Why are 2 elementary schools being closed in the Dunwoody cluster when it looks like closing one would allow other schools to be over the 450 threshold. How long does it take any cost savings from closing a second school to surpass the cost of expanding Chestnut? And how are these savings realized if the building is repurposed and would still require upkeep ? |
| 42 | For proposed closures of high performing schools, has there been consideration that students may be redistricted to lower-performing schools? |
| 43 | Will the modeling assumptions, including utilization benchmarks and projection methodology, be published separately from the State of the Schools report? |
| 44 | are we just looking at enrollments for schools or also scores |
| 45 | Based on the timeline provided for boundaries (next fall), when will the final closure/consolidation list be released? For clarification, will the parents and communities have an opportunity to provide feedback once we have the full picture - or will decisions have been approved? Parents are being asked to provide constructive feedback with incomplete information. |
| 46 | Please explain why Evansdale and Henderson Mill are slated to close when they are the 2 schools in the Lakeside cluster closest to Henderson Middle? The site size for Evansdale is larger than Livsey, Henderson Mill, and Sagamore Hills and only an acre smaller than Briarlake. |
| 47 | The schools in the surrounding areas to schools proposed for closure will need significant updates to support a larger student population (ex: Sagamore and Briarlake to accommodate Oak Grove population). Students should not be going to school in a construction zone and the amount of work needed on those schools would not be possible in the 2 months of summer break. Can you share the thoughts around how this would be done? |
| 48 | Kingsley is a smaller but wonderful school and we love the teachers, the building has needed maintenance but that has been kicked down the road by the district since at least 2019, every teacher knows every students name, your not just a number and it sounds like that’s all they are to you. Bigger isn’t always better. |
| 49 | what happens to schools not listed that are in need of expansion? Specifially Dunwoody High school which has many temporary out buildings to control overflow that have been there so long that the word temporary should be removed from their discription? |
| 50 | Are you considering what is best for students with these mega schools or just what is cost effective? |
| 51 | Thank you Matt. With no open work orders, an RSLI over 50, and a FCA score in the report of 75.11 it looks like our building has more life left in it. What FCA score was use a designator for closure? |
| 52 | After Round Two is released, will there be additional scenario modeling presented in April, May, June, or July before final decisions are made? |
| 53 | When incorporating academic data in Round Two, how will lower-performing schools be interpreted? As justification for closure, or as justification for investment? |
| 54 | I get that this isn't a "decision." When decisions are made, will there be another review period with input where the decision can be changed? It's difficult to ask questions or give alternative ideas when the plan is so vague. Also, has the district studied how many parents may decide to switch to private education if this plan is implemented? |
| 55 | The gold standard studies in the school closure literature consistently show that students who are displaced from schools have lower test scores, lower graduation rates and lower lifetime earnings with the worse outcomes for already disadvantaged students. The one repeated finding is that placing students at the highest quality schools can diminish that effect, but per AJC, you are closing the highest performing schools. How will that be addressed in scenario 2? |
| 56 | Why is student achievement not a factor in this evaluation? |
| 57 | I like that idea |
| 58 | I don’t see any cons mentioned of social issues that may come up with young children being in the same building as teenagers? What is the research and considerations for this? Pick up and drop off is one thing but a five year old being socialized around a 14 year old seems more problematic to me as a parent. |
| 59 | Why is enrollment diminishing and expected to decrease so significantly through 2030? If it is because more families are choosing private school or home school, shouldn’t we be looking at how to increase enrollment? And what if enrollment suddenly starts increasing after this plan is implemented? |
| 60 | What about capacity at high schools that are already over capacity but are not slated for expanion or conversion? Our high school has 10 trailers. How is this being addressed? |
| 61 | Why was academic performance not weighed at all in the closure analysis? Unquestionably there is value in existing staff and community like Vanderlyn. Also, why by contrast was facility grading weighed so heavily while scrape and build would need to happen? Vanderlyn facility wise also grades highly. It is asinine to close the 2nd highest performing ES in the Dunwoody cluster |
| 62 | The SAP website Q&A said that building capacity for each building was calculated using all current modular classrooms. Why is removing trailers not an immediate goal of the redistricting plan? They are an eyesore in the community, do not provide ideal student or staff safety, and take up important campus space that could be better utilized by the school if enrolled at the actual building capacity. |
| 63 | Please expand on the 600 number beign the baseline for fully funded schools. A 450 number was used in SAP materials as the point at which schools start to fully support staff. I want to make sure we all understand the difference between these two numbers. |
| 64 | As feedback, having more tranistions between schools combined with larger schools means we're not better supporting our special needs population that thrives on smaller environments and rountine. Adding an addition 2/3 transition means more times they have to adjust routeines and learn new locations. |
| 65 | What is the goal for classroom sizes? The current state minimum is too large, especially for our neurodivergent children. |
| 66 | Since it is clear that significant community feedback conflicts with this model’s conclusions, what mechanism exists for adjusting the modeling assumptions by the March 16 Board meeting prior to requiring a vote? |
| 67 | I do not think they should put 6th grade and 7th grade in a high school. |
| 68 | What does expansion of facilities mean? Many of the schools marked for expansion are geographically bounded by residential areas. Is this a complete tear down-and-rebuild suggestion? |
| 69 | What exactly is being voted on in the fall. Is it simply the buildings/facilities portion, or is it everything, buildings, programs, etc.? |
| 70 | I echo the comments from the Vanderlyn Parent as a Kingsley Parent. In addtion: at Kingsley, our HVAC project has been removed from the districts list of planned improvements. They say they plan to expand Chestnut to accommodate the students from the closing school, but it would be a full rebuild. The questions I have mostly circle around what do people who are at these schools do while we are in limbo. Like if we don't get a new HVAC but Kingsley remains open for a few years, the kids and staff are just going to have to power through? Bussing all of the students mid-day when there was no heat to Peachtree MS (even the Pre-K) was unacceptable as we had little notice to alter our aftercare plans. |
| 71 | In addition to inaccurate data modeling for 2026-7 Oak Grove feedback: Our building adequacy score is also higher than the two schools remaining open on your dashboard. Even with most recent improvements to those expansion list schools since initial assessments, looking at the raw data informing scores, the improvements made would not result in surpassing OGE. Are updates being made to the dashboard? |
| 72 | Nothing provided by the SAP has addressed charter or magnet schools specifically. What is the plan for those schools and how can this initial proposal be adequately evaluated without a full understanding of impact/suggestions for all district schools? |
| 73 | I think that age group should not be with the older age group. |
| 74 | The purpose of closing Ashford Park Elementary School ("APES") seems to be focused only on capacity. Have other factors been considered, including but not limited to travel? The travel to Montgomery Elementary is difficult because of the small two lane road to Montgomery (ie. Ashford Dunwoody Road) and the traffic caused by Marist private school. Additionally, the travel distance and time to Huntley Hills for students and famlies currently in the APES enrollment area is very far and this does even consider traffic. |
| 75 | How are students who have qualified for the gifted program concidered in this re-disrciting? |
| 76 | Based on the presentation thus far, the evaluation only considers cost and fails to consider the educational needs of students. Namely, that smaller class sizes are far more beneficial educationally than larger ones. That should be included in future analysis considering it is the only reason that these schools exist, i.e., to educate children. |
| 77 | no not all schools are high rating school. Schools are trying to do better |
| 78 | How are traffic patterns and transportation influencing this decision? One of the proposed expansion ES in our area is in a traffic bottleneck to the Druid Hills/Clifton corridor and would result in negative community impacts |
| 79 | Have the proposed scenarios considered changes to traffic patterns caused by the expansion of neighborhood elementary schools? For example, Oak Grove Elementary is slotted for closure, and in doing so, it will move significant traffic off of main feeder roads into the residential neighborhood roads where Sagamore Hills Elementary is located, and most Oak Grove Elementary kids would be moved to. |
| 80 | For those that have used the Dekalb School Choice program and successfully lottery'ed into another school, what happens to those students? Are you reallocating students based on CURRENT enrollment? |
| 81 | Is there data or rating of parent satisfaction of different schools ? There seems to be a drive to make larger and larger ES for efficiency sake, but some anecdotal things I have heard is that people are not happy with these larger ES |
| 82 | Appreciate the feedback here - that said, it feels like it is difficult (if not impossible) for the community to provide feedback on 'school closure' alone without knowing the implictations related to boundary changes. If the district already has taken boundaries into consideration when determining initial school closure recommendations, it would very helpful for the district to transparently provide this information to enable proper community feedback. |
| 83 | The PK-3/4-5 configuration did not include any details about potential closures. Is that data available? |
| 84 | Were expected construction costs included in the cost/benefit analysis of closing some schools and expanding or rebuilding others, and if so, how was that calculated and what are the actual construction costs vs anticipated savings, both for the district as a whole and for each cluster? Does that plan rely on future bonds? |
| 85 | Comment: Schools performance is easily measured and is done so often in research. It is not something we are asking HPM to do. https://jeonghyeok-kim.github.io/assets/School_Closure_and_Student_Outcomes.pdf |
| 86 | Where does cluster culture rank in the priorities? |
| 87 | How can we get the best out of the student when we take them out from high performingschools? and move them to low/poor performing school? |
| 88 | I appreciate you addressing this live re performance. Acknowledging it is difficult to weigh should not result in completely ignoring it. Third grade reading level is a widely held performance metric - Vanderlyn has 89% reading at or above third grade level which is one of highest in district. There is absolutely value in existing high performing infrastructure which should be accounted for |
| 89 | Have you thought this through, because some schools are rival and this merge could cause a lot of fighting. |
| 90 | Also Kingley was on a closure list a few years ago to later be taken off but in the interim the funds for replacing the HVAC were for for improvement projects to Kingsley. Why are capital projects getting cancelled based on a hypothetical situation? |
| 91 | Is it possible to consider expanding the high school without shutting down the school itself? |
| 92 | How will DCSD account for neighborhood impacts --- ie I've seen on a prior slide that Briar Vista Elementary could be flagged for expansion/larger enrollment ... The neighborhood can hardly handle the existing traffic load in its present volume ... And the existing bus schedule is plain cruel for some kids, with a 545am pick up time at a home 2.4 miles away |
| 93 | Dr. Sauce has already started that we have equity issues historically in this district. This plan needs to account for the addressing of these disparities in tandem with this reconsolidation and redistributing plan. |
| 94 | How is Ashford Park which is already over capacity going to be transferred to Montgomery and HH which are already over capacity. Neither Montgomery or HH are close for the people currently living in Ashford Park. Commute times via car or bus will be long and walking will be impossible for any students. |
| 95 | What are the differential programs and resources that will be offered to schools exceeding 450, if they are consolidated into "mega" elementary schools with closer to 1000 students? |
| 96 | Is it a priority for DCSD to retain Title 1 status in schools that are slated to be expanded? |
| 97 | Is it possible as you discuss closing small schools to evaluating moving the entire population to a school together to hold the community together? Would you consider adjusting school boudaries of existing schools to allow that to happen? |
| 98 | When looking at placement of nearby schools for proposed closures - have you considered that “as the crow flies” distance doesn’t really work in some areas? A school that is “techinically” just a mile away could mean an extra 15-30 minutes of commute (either bus ride or drop off) during rush hour. |
| 99 | There have been rumors about Kitteridge. What are the scenarios for the magnet school. Those of us in N DeKalb loosing students to private schools left and right due to lack of more of this programming. Has the addtion of another magnet school been considered? |
| 100 | If it is determined that a school on the list of being closed does not end up moving forward, would there still be a possibility for rezoning or is it a safe bet to assume that we will continue with the current zoning boundary that exists today? |
| 101 | What is the maximum distance you propose people would have to drive to get to school? Does that vary based on school grade band? Are you factoring in traffic patterns? |
| 102 | Will a consolidated paper of all questions and answers from these sessions be provided? Expecting parents to watch each session (which is all I could find) is not realistic and we all deserve to see the frequency of similar questions being asked and other areas’ concerns. |
| 103 | Kittredge Magnet School and Carey Reynolds Elementary School *buildings* (not programs) do not appear to be on the list of DCSD elementary schools. Were they not considered in this phase? |
| 104 | Have you considered leaving 6th graders in elementary school & having 7-12 grade? For 6-12 grade model, how would you keep preteens separated from teens, like separate floors or wings? |
| 105 | How can we expect people to move to dekalb if your only focus is to big buildings instead of quality of education because the main reason people moving out of dekalb despite it's conveniency is poor quality of public school. |
| 106 | Is the bottom line trying to take away small neighborhood schools and replace with large facilities |
| 107 | The video mentioned that the school closure wouldn't happen for 6-8 years, but there was an answer listed above that some of these changes will take place in 2027-2028. Can you clarify? |
| 108 | Can someone please answer my questions? |
| 109 | What is the ballpark estimate of the COST to expand an elementary from 500 to 600 in capactity? |
| 110 | My daughters attend Chesnut and how will those students be moved during an expansion when you are planning to close nearby schools? |
| 111 | Has anyone considered that closing a highly rated school could and most likely will push more families to go to Private? This means losing more revenue for the county. |
| 112 | For the elementary schools with capacity, has it been considered to add additional pre-k and pre-k 3 classrooms? We have to apply for a lottery to get in and adding classes would increase utilization at the schools |
| 113 | With all due respect, it was stated at the beginning to be specific with regards to which schools we're concerned about. |
| 114 | I recognize we are discussing facilities as a large part of this project, however, how is the educational component being factored in? Looking at this from an educational standpoint first seems most imperative, as concerns surrounding the children's education is paramount. How is that being addressed? |
| 115 | I like the idea of cascading and looking at different grade level combinations. While there is an overall picture what really matters is still the education at the local level and that is going to be different given the size of our district. |
| 116 | How is it that north side of DeKalb there are not considering closing but south Dekalb are closing |
| 117 | Is the proposed decision about Vanderlyn based only on facility and real estate metrics, or are student outcomes weighted equally? I have sent my three children there for ten years. The school successfully serves gifted students, average learners, and those with learning differences in one strong community. What equity analysis has been done on the academic and social impact of closing it? If it closes, where will students go, and will those schools offer equal support? This is a human decision. |
| 118 | Many districts have abandoned closures at this scale because the construction costs outweigh the benefits of consolidation. Has the district created a benchmark for that decision? |
| 119 | Knowing that some areas cannot be impacted for many years after this process, why are we starting with broad county wide strokes instead of creating small adjustments to prove these processes work while also addressing non-school DCSD owned property utilization to support county costs? |
| 120 | How do you plan to keep students together for the schools that are already over capacity and on the list for closure? (i.e. APE) |
| 121 | Vanderlyn isn't at capacity. Changing the boundaries to allow more families to attend would be a great idea. There are a lot of schools that don't have much land, which means there isn't enough room for kids to be able to play which is incredibly important. Vanderlyn has a lot of land which is a gem to have for |
| 122 | Tracy's statement about how expansion/renovationmust happen before moves can happen -- doesn't give confidence that the costs upon which this scenario are based have been estimated or totaled or assessed for whether DCSD has that much CIP $$ in 6-8 years. Can you comment on the level of cost analysis that has been done to date, or when it will be shared with the public? |
| 123 | for elementary aged children. This should be considered. because it is truly valuable. |
| 124 | Will your share the financials of a 450 person elementary, verse 650, verse 850? It would be good to see the proposed savings compared to the cost of expansion. Also, has scenario analysis been done by the consultants at HPM? It seems when the mega schools get opened, enrollment goes down. Does this plan create a self fulfilling prophecy? 20, 30, 40 years ago with traffic patterns, doesn't it make more sense to have more smaller strategic buildings since enrollment, childbirth rates, etc are unpredictable? Take the South as an example, it was overbuilt and now is the largest problem in terms of under utilization. |
| 125 | How are SAP and HPM coordinating with the district facilities team and the board regarding planned construction or already board-approved updates to schools now proposed for closure in any of these scenarios? |
| 126 | My question is that of the schools potentially slotted to take in redistricted students already have an average of 24ish students per class. Taking our wonderful, smaller school into consideration that’s an average of at least 30-something students per GRADE as an estimate. Is there a plan to hire more teachers to accommodate the influx of students, or exactly how will this be addressed? Thank you. |
| 127 | Dekalb County Schools has widespread corruption, that is evident in the recent indictment of Devin Horton. How can we be assured that there is not corruption, kickbacks, improper use of funds at play in this decision making process? |
| 128 | Consideration of adding 6th graders back to elementary schools. and then doing 7-9/10-12 or 7-12. Are pyshological and sociological research considered in this? Student well being and developental milestones? Why in the world would you put 11yr old 6th graders with 18yr old 12th graders? just about money? Smokerise elementary is currently the “super” elementary school Dekalb is trying to move to and it’s not been successful…families leaving for other schools in droves. If Dekalb moves to super schools, is the fear not that more families will leave the district or take the $6000 GA grant and go elsewhere. Smaller schools are better for communities…why take away thriving small schools to make bigger schools when no one is moving to Dekalb for the schools…our attendance has dropped considerably…meanwhile Forsyth and Oconee have 33-40% growth over the last 4 decades….lower enrollment in Dekalb isn’t just lower birthrates…it’s bad reputation for performance is so sad for someone who loves Dekalb. |
| 129 | How does this scenario address the overcpacity of the more northern HS |
| 130 | I think the Kittridge Question from David is about the Kittridge facility. We are in a facility discussion now. It is old and was slated for closure. Why aren't the old buildings (Globe lower academy, Kittridge, being considered in the facilities analysis?) |
| 131 | My question about schools being expanded was not about addressing the timeline for the buildings to be updated, but rather, there are already students in those buildings. Over the next 6-8 years, those students should not be going to school in construction zones. How will the county address site updates without negatively impacting current students? |
| 132 | Vanderlyn would love to propose where high school parking could go to allow that school to expand into it's current parking lots so that both schools can co-exist |
| 133 | Do you already had budget and redistricting ideas to complete the picture that have not been released? If so, I think the resounding request from the communities is to recieve this information, despite how this rollout have been planned. These discussions will be hard to have no matter when they happen. |
| 134 | Why are parents being asked to provide solutions when we are paying HPM millions for this process? |
| 135 | How are teachers and faculty being incorporated into this process? For example, if you’re a teacher at a school in the closure list, what happens to your job? |
| 136 | In March will we have more information about the plan for Vanderlyn (and Kingsley) students? We understand fall is for boundaries but will we have more information earlier? |
| 137 | In determining future population projections, were new developments like Lulah Hills and proposed housing in Avondale taken into account as well? |
| 138 | Can we get an in-person north region conversation because we do not have anyscheduled now? |
| 139 | What is the thought process around Cary Reynolds Elementary school building? It's located within the Montgomery and Chamblee district, but used by Dunwoody. |
| 140 | Will I get any one to answer my questions above? |
| 141 | When do you anticipate having the specific community discussions that Tracy referenced? Will this be some time between now and May, or is that a differenct timeline? |
| 142 | You mentioned a goal of keeping current school bodies together. Does that mean a school planned for closure will be moved entirely (students and faculty) to another facility? |
| 143 | How many proposal rounds are planned since this first round doesn't include a full consideration of all facilities, proposals regarding how expansion will occur or where students will be moved? |
| 144 | I recognize we are discussing facilities as a large part of this project, however, how is the educational component being factored in? Looking at this from an educational standpoint first seems most imperative, as concerns surrounding the children's education is paramount. How is that being addressed? |
| 145 | Can we get an in-person meeting further north in Dekalb county? Right all of the meeting locations are middle and south Dekalb. |
| 146 | ...but you have data wrong, and aren't considering the most important data points. It's hard to engage here when your recommendations seemingly ignore your own criteria. When comparing Oak Grove, Briarlake, and Sagamore, Oak Grove's building facility score is higher, our current capactity is higher, we maintain a large lot where five more classrooms could be added (that's all we need to be at 600), our test scores are higher, we attract more potential new students via school choice. Not to mention, Sagamore is MUCH closer to Clairmont where traffic comes to a grinding halt all morning due to the Children's Hospital. Why does what is being said not line up with the scenario? |
| 147 | Have conversations about what will happen to the teachers of the schools that may close? |
| 148 | The initial plan is pretty comprehensive. How will the existing capital improvement projects (Cross Keys renovations, New Sequoyah Cluster, New Dresden Elementary) play into the SAP project? Managed separately or within the constraints of the project? One gap seems to be there is no middle school for Cross Keys High School anymore? How will this be addressed? Is the County allowing Split Feeder Schools now? |
| 149 | Is AI being for these assessments? |
| 150 | How many teachers/adminstrators are projected to lose their jobs as a result of this (and how will is it determined who gets to keep their jobs)? Also, will there be a pay increase for those who remain? As a parent, I have always felt educators were grossly underpaid. I would love to know some of these savings are being passed on directly to them. |
| 151 | Ashford Park is a high performing school that is not underutilized, cascading use is not available, and there is not an underutilized building nearby. Montgomery and Huntley Hills are 3+ miles away which would affect the high percentage of students that live close to the school. This would put an additional burden on walkers to become carpoolers and bus riders. We are also already approved by the board to have a major renovation. If it takes several years for the expansions, what will be done for our students? Are the students supposed to just suffer in a building that is not up to code when it was already expected to have a renovation? |
| 152 | Please consider doing virtual and in person sessions for clusters as well. Access and opportunity are real barriers for this population. |
| 153 | If a specific school is determined to be closed, how quickly will it actually close? |
| 154 | Will the Hard Boundary of 85N/S still be a rule for redistricting across the various buildings? historically, the County has used this line for safety and traffic reasons, but with some buildings so close to the highway, will this change? |
| 155 | How can you keep citing the importance of data when we know the data is wrong? How can we possibly give feedback when the basis for your decisions is faulty? Oak Grove parents have already sent corrected data to the email address mentioned, but there's no way there will be time to revisit with correct data before Phase 2 begins. |
| 156 | Also two of my three daughters are in the Dual Language German Immersion program which has been excellent and provides a lot of value and challenge to their education. Would these Dual Language programs stay with the “school population” or be relocated? |
| 157 | Was any consideration given to the reality that a notable percentage of families that attend schools that close will take their kids out of DCSD entirely, further complicating capacity issues? Further, what consideration was given to the fact that property values will be negatively impacted by school closures? |
| 158 | How would this affect the special needs children? |
| 159 | During the presentation Scott said something along the lines that middle ans high school enrollment is lower in the south end of the county than in the north end. I’m interested in reviewing the data or analysis behind that statement. Can you share the research, enrollment figures, or demographic information that supports this conclusion? Who can I talk to get a better understanding on this? |
| 160 | This is not a question, but a comment to the SAP team and DCSD. I have seem comments in community threads and in the board retreat about parents not showing up in numbers at the in-person evening events. I have the great luxury of participating in many of these sessions. This is not the case with everyone, certainly not parents with small/elementary age children who are both working. Please know that physical turnout at evening events is highly dependent on parents being able to find and afford childcare. This is not new, nor is it an indication of the community's concern. |
| 161 | It has been stated by the consultants and Board that less buildings will cause better traffic patterns? How so? In the Lakeside Cluster traffic is already terrible due to the single lane, residential roads. Closure of Henderson Mill and Oak Grove would drive even more traffic and bottleneck on these small roads/stop signs etc. Will the Board work with the County to invest in roads and traffic relieving measures? |
| 162 | For Round 2 in early summer, are you saying that the final decisions on which schools are closing will already be made? So we won't see any updates or changes on the list of school closures to provide more feedback between this round and next round? We will just be providing our input on the scenarios presented now and then the final decision on closures and mergers will be presented in May? |
| 163 | Will the Q&A from the Monday–Wednesday SAP sessions be posted? If so, where can we view them? |
| 164 | I didn't hear the answer to my question. Can you respond here? For proposed closures of high performing schools, has there been conidiation that parents may choose to go private and that translates to losing more revenue for our schools. |
| 165 | Are you concerned that this will push more parents to apply for private schools and cause further decline in enrollment? |
| 166 | In looking at districts under HPMs portfolio, we found that an effect of school consolidation is increase of attendance issues and truancy due to the school being harder to get to, especially if buses are the only mode of transportation to and from school. Have we accounted for that? |
| 167 | How does the plan account for continued loss of students out of district because other school districts seem more attractive, cost of living in areas with higher rated schools are too expensive, neighborhoods no longer attractive because a school closed etc? |
| 168 | To be clear, your goal is not to divide up current districts and keep the students slated for one school/district together? |
| 169 | How will you ensure or incentivise faculty to stay in schools when they are on the closure list? I'm concerned that schools on the closure list will suffer if teachers or administration decide to leave before the actual closure. |
| 170 | Will there be projects that will be sacrificed to fund this? |
| 171 | Why aren't boundary adjustments being considered as a first step to solve? When will it be integrated into scenarios? How will it be communicated? |
| 172 | At which point in the process will students who have participated in the School Choice lottery be taken into consideration? At which stage will special programs, such as the Dual Language Immersion programs, IB, Elementary Montessori, etc, be considered or taken into account; and how are these programs expected to be affected? Additionally, is there a way for the community to access the raw data sets, as well as a detailed review of the methodologies and assumptions that were made for analysis? |
| 173 | From the HPM website - "HPM was born out of an 80+ year old construction company in 1997, with a vision of leveraging our robust experience and expertise to partner with clients in delivering successful large-scale capital improvement projects." Please explain how this does not result in a conflict of interest when HPM is directing and overseeing a large -scale capital improvement project for which they are the financial beneficiary in managing. I worked in state government for many years, and this does seem like a conflict. |
| 174 | 600 person elementary schools are not in the best interest of the students. Please post the research that shows this? because all i have found is the opposite. how are the current larger elementary schools performing in Dekalb right now? |
| 175 | my sons needs while he was at Peachcrest were not met. which is why we had to move to a smaller school that could. |
| 176 | Do you all look at research on the feasibility and outcomes of adding dyslexia remediation school/s, like the recently opened schools in NYC? Appx 20% of students have a reading learning difference and students leave the district to seek that support. We know several families in the Dunwoody cluster who have left Dekalb, and my son is in 5th with dyslexia and we know he would be better served elsewhere. |
| 177 | On the topic of special needs, at Oak Grove for instance, we receive a ton of IDEA funding because we have a high number of students with special learning needs. Therefore, we have specialists on staff. How will dividing up the students account for that overall loss of combined funds? |
| 178 | When you say not applying the research for solutions “in broad brushes”, is there any consideration for changing grade configurations unique to different Dekalb zones as needed? Is that too outside of the box? |
| 179 | Also, was the per pupil cost inclusive of exclusive of the coverage IDEA provides? |
| 180 | Dr Billingsley, my daughter cannot speak. It is helpful to have a small community school that every teacher knows her to help provide that support. How could we ensure all staff would know that at a very large school? She is in co-taught, not self contained. For children without language or those that could Elope, bigger schools seem risky. I know Smoke Rise has not been conducive to special education students and candidly has a lot of challenges generally. |
| 181 | What is the plan for addressing severe overcrowiding at Lakeside? 2030 enrollment is still high on the Dashboard, yet there are no plans for more capacity in the Lakeside area. Can you give us hope? |
| 182 | would employeed teachers of closed elems go to the new school with the same students? or do current employees then have to find new jobs? |
| 183 | The SAP resources outlined the state funding and resources that are provided for elementary schools exceeding 450. However the SAP proposal has elementary schools 2x that size, with closer to 1000 students. What are the proven positive outcomes you can point to for schools at that size? |
| 184 | When adding on the building are you adding on caferteria space, library space, Gym etc? Will sports fields and recess space be used so now there will be less? Adding students in schools how will that effect clubs, musical and sports teams? So many kids will loose their spots on a sport team or in music group etc. if they get moved. |
| 185 | The metric of radius of miles seems to be less effective - why is drivetime not used as a better metric? |
| 186 | Agree that there should't be any sacred cows!! But we're being told that utilization/FCA/adequacy are the reasons for closure - yet that isn't true. I wish the messaging had been more clear. |
| 187 | Thank you very much everyone for sharing all that you did. For those of us who have to leave the session - how may we access a recording or share with others who couldn't attend/can't attend tonight? |
| 188 | if the project occurs over the next 6-8 years. when would the first school closer take place? would this be year 6? or does this process begin after hte 26-27 school year? |
| 189 | On what date will the second round of iterations be released to the public? Will the March community feedback sessions all be cluster-specific, or will the cluster meetings be in addition to the already released community feedback dates the week of 3/23? |
| 190 | Can you speak specifically to Ashford Park Elementary and why it is on the list? It doesn’t seem to fit into the cascading option with no open schools nearby and is over capacity (not under utilized like many others on the list). It seems like one is unlike all the others… |
| 191 | David Yoke, your response that high quality education and community can be located and built at any facility is aspirational, but does not align with reality for top-performing schools that are split up. The only case where students perform at or better are when students are moved to another location with significantly higher performance. This is not the case with Vanderlyn or Oak Grove, and is if almost certain that student outcomes will deteriorate. This is based on a large body of research from school closures and resulting student performance. |
| 192 | Thanks for speaking to the roads we drive. Please be aware that Montgomery Elementary is on a very busy road that is just one lane in each direction. This is a road that connects to 285 with many commuters. Adding more students/traffic to that school would create so many problems. |
| 193 | Were traffic patterns factored into these scenarios? For example, Montgomery Elementary is on the list as a possible expansion, but Ashford-Dunwoody road is a single lane in each direction and already faces significant traffic issues during dropoff/pickup. |
| 194 | That’s a part of the problem….the District is aiming for 800 seat schools as the new standard, but some of the healthiest schools are the smaller capacity. |
| 195 | Thank you for all of your efforts! I like the SAP initiative and I hope that the "squeaky wheel" communities don't override the broader goal of operating efficiently. In other words, please don't overreact to the initial feedback and backtrack on closures. Change is hard, but it is necessary. |
| 196 | It seems like what works for the Southern part of the district doesn’t work for the Northern part of the district. From what parents see, we see schools already at capacity with all buildings in need of upkeep. Is there a posibility of building additional completely new school buildings to accomodate the consolidation of elementaries rather than closing individual schools before better facilites are ready? |
| 197 | How are future capacity projections being calculated and is that data publicly available? |
| 198 | Will Robert Shaw remain Robert Shaw Traditional Theme School and relocate or be closed and done? |
| 199 | Kingsley ES has an estimated capacity of over 600 students as is while Chestnut has a capacity in the 400-500 student range. Where are you getting your capacity data from? |
| 200 | Will kids currently enrolled in a magnet program be grandfathered into such magnet program if any changes are made in the future? |
| 201 | What is the total cost savings from this project projected to be? Will the County share with the taxpayers? With Construction costs so high, this plan seems cost prohibitive. Transparency would be helpful. The lifetime savings, should be discounted back to the present value and compared against the cost this effort will take before this money is spent. |
| 202 | I know we aren't to boundaries yet, but question for when we get there: Will there be a short term redistricting map provided as well as a long term redistricting map (before and after school expansions?) |
| 203 | Sorry if you already covered this, but how many building scenario iterations do you plan to release? |
| 204 | grades 7 through 12 seems like a better fit rather than k-8 or 6-12 options |
| 205 | On the combining of buildings, I have heard that it does not help pick up and makes things worse sometimes because the time releases may still be different. Parents then have to sit in the parking lot for an hour anyhow. How would that be addressed in the different plans? |
| 206 | Can you please speak to the broader impacts of these changes, such as students’ economic situations (most of the schools on the list serve a higher percentage of low-income students than the district's averageimpacting close proximity benefits), academic achievement, spending at each school, changes in traffic flow thorughout the county, and propety tax implications. |
| 207 | Is there a place where all the questions and answers sent throughout the feedback sessions will be posted so anyone unable to log in to these sessions can review the information. And will these sessions be posted online to view the live q&a and videos from all feedback sessions over the week. |
| 208 | What efforts will be made to retain the administrative staff at the high performing schools that are proposed for closure? |
| 209 | For schools on the closure list, how do you intend to motivate and encourage teachers and staff to stay on if their career paths are in jeopardy as positions will likely be consolidated and/or moved? |
| 210 | I’ve worked with kids for over 20 years, age 5-18, with age and maturity why not pre-k through 5, 6-8, 9-12 . You can say 6-12 what happens in the parking lot when a 16 year old is driving home an 11 year old |
| 211 | Might be a weird question, but is private/PTO funding income towards projects considered in any plans for individual schools, or just district funding? |
| 212 | Is the proposed decision about Vanderlyn based only on facility and real estate metrics, or are student outcomes weighted equally? I have sent my three children there for ten years. The school successfully serves gifted students, average learners, and those with learning differences in one strong community. What equity analysis has been done on the academic and social impact of closing it? If it closes, where will students go, and will those schools be offered equal support? |
Feedback Staff Webinar
SAP Round 1 - Feedback Staff Webinar - March 5, 2026 - 7 AM
SAP Round 1 - Feedback Staff Webinar - March 5, 2026 - 4 PM
SAP Round 1 Recap - March 16, 2026
https://youtu.be/Qc_tp4vs47E?si=lme3-5tPtz9zvFLa
Scenario 1 FAQs
Thank you to the DeKalb County community for your thoughtful and extensive participation in the Student Assignment Project (SAP). This work represents a complex, multiyear effort that brings together data analysis, facility planning, and meaningful community engagement on an issue that affects every region of the district.
Over the past several weeks, we received hundreds of questions, comments, and concerns from families, staff, students, and community members. The level of engagement reflects the deep commitment our community has to its schools, neighborhoods, and the longterm wellbeing of all students.
This FAQ synthesizes the major themes that emerged across those responses and provides clear, comprehensive explanations to the most commonly raised questions. It is not intended to replace the full set of community feedback. In the spirit of transparency, the complete, unedited list of submitted questions and comments will also be posted publicly so that the community can see the full range of perspectives that informed this summary.
- 1) How were the proposed school closures, consolidations, and repurposing selected, and what specific data points and criteria were used?
- 2) How is the district ensuring that demographic, racial, and geographic equity are central—particularly given the heavy concentration of proposed closures in South DeKalb?
- 3) What is the data and methodology used to create enrollment forecasts? Will data be updated and errors corrected? Will the source data be posted?
- 4) What happens to students from a school proposed for closure—will they stay together, where would they go, and how will capacity challenges in receiving schools be addressed?
- 5) How will the district address traffic, transportation, travel time, safety, and truancy implications if students are moved farther from home?
- 6) How will teacher retention, staffing stability, and job security be protected during a multi‑year transition?
- 7) What will happen to closed school buildings—will they be sold, repurposed, maintained, secured, or left vacant, and what is the cost of each option?
- 8) Will consolidation increase class sizes and harm instructional quality?
- 9) How are grade‑band changes (e.g., PK‑3/4‑5, K‑8, 6‑12) being evaluated for developmental, social‑emotional, and safety impacts?
- 10) How will the district rebuild trust and ensure meaningful engagement—including opportunities for live public comment?
- 11) Timeline and notice—how will the six‑to‑eight‑year implementation be managed to avoid instability?
- 12) Why weren’t boundaries and programs discussed alongside buildings?
- 13) What safeguards prevent enrollment or funding loss if families leave DCSD?
- 14) Why are some schools in the scenario after receiving recent or ongoing ESPLOST‑funded work?
- 15) What happens to specialty programs (DLI, magnet/theme, CTAE, Special Education) in the new layouts?
- 16) How will the plan address root causes of enrollment decline (program breadth, family confidence, housing patterns, competition)?
- 17) What financial outcomes are expected—what is the target for cost avoidance and reinvestment?
- 18) How will student safety be ensured—in hallways, on buses, and in any combined‑age campuses?
- 19) Will alternatives be considered—rebuilds on existing sites, joint/adjacent campuses, K‑8 models, or relocating administrative functions into school buildings?
- 20) How will Special Education and medically fragile students be protected during longer commutes and transitions?
- 21) Consultant support (HPM): How was the firm selected, what is the scope, how are they paid, and which parts of their approach are standardized versus tailored for the district?
1) How were the proposed school closures, consolidations, and repurposing selected, and what specific data points and criteria were used?
The initial scenario is a conceptual starting point, not a recommendation. It is intentionally broad so that the community can see the system‑wide picture early, identify issues, and contribute lived experience before the next draft is shaped.
The scenario is built on a districtwide evaluation of building adequacy, capacity versus enrollment, proximity to where students live, and the geographic relationships between schools. Facility condition, educational suitability, building size, utilization trends, and opportunities for ‘cascading use’ (repurposing stronger high school buildings as middle schools, and middle schools as elementary schools) form the backbone of these early concepts.
Because long‑term enrollment has shifted unevenly across the county—some clusters gain resident students while others have seen steep losses—some schools have become significantly underutilized, while others face persistent over‑capacity. The scenario groups buildings according to these patterns so the district can evaluate the entire system rather than isolated clusters. This is why the planning sequence begins with Buildings → Boundaries → Programs: boundaries and program placements must follow facility decisions so that future maps and offerings are grounded in actual capacity and geographic logic.
When a building is removed from service or converted, there are ripple effects across nearby schools. System‑level modeling is therefore necessary to understand how closures, conversions, and additions interact. The conceptual model invites feedback so communities can identify inaccuracies, share development details, correct enrollment assumptions, and highlight factors that may not appear in the data alone. Those insights will shape subsequent iterations before any formal recommendation is considered.
Earlier mentions of “8 - 24 potential closures” were not proposals. They were used simply to show the scale of underutilization districtwide. The 27 school closures in the initial scenario emerged only after building a full, interconnected model that included factors such as cascading use. Future scenarios may show different numbers as additional options and community feedback are incorporated.
2) How is the district ensuring that demographic, racial, and geographic equity are central—particularly given the heavy concentration of proposed closures in South DeKalb?
The initial scenarios do show a disproportionate number of proposed closures in South DeKalb. This is due to the area containing the largest share of physically empty seats and under‑utilized or less adequate buildings relative to where students live today and are projected to live in the future. These patterns reflect long‑term demographic shifts—aging‑in‑place, lower household sizes, and changes in school‑age population density—not race, school performance, or community value.
The purpose of releasing a first scenario is to make these systemwide patterns visible and to gather community input early. The goal is to consolidate resources into fewer, better‑resourced, modernized schools so every student has access to strong academic programs, full staffing, and supportive services—conditions that are difficult to sustain in severely under‑enrolled facilities.
Safeguards are built into the broader process. As part of the facility reuse plan, closed buildings will not be abandoned or left to deteriorate. They will be repurposed for early learning, district operations, public‑agency partnerships, or land‑banked for future educational needs. These approaches are designed to prevent neighborhood decline, maintain community value, and preserve flexibility if demographic patterns shift.
Later phases will address boundaries and program placements, allowing the district to distribute opportunities in ways that strengthen equity, reduce travel burdens, and avoid repeating historic patterns of disinvestment.
3) What is the data and methodology used to create enrollment forecasts? Will data be updated and errors corrected? Will the source data be posted?
The enrollment forecast uses a modified cohort-survival model. This industry standard model projects future enrollment based on average grade progression rates, historic school choice participation, historic and planned housing developments, housing yield rates, and programmatic changes. We are working with the commissioners and city government to add housing development, and city data. Information that has been posted so far can be found at the following links:
SAP Resources: here
Planning and Forecasting Information: here
HPM dashboard and Facility Report: here
4) What happens to students from a school proposed for closure—will they stay together, where would they go, and how will capacity challenges in receiving schools be addressed?
The long‑term plan is designed to unfold over six to eight years, allowing construction, additions, and grade‑band conversions to be sequenced before moving students whenever possible. This approach reduces disruption and ensures that receiving schools are prepared to welcome students with adequate space, staffing, and programming.
While the goal is to maintain cohort integrity, final decisions about how student groups move will be determined during the Boundaries phase. Boundary changes must follow building decisions because assignments can only be responsibly made once the district knows which facilities will operate and at what capacity.
The initial scenario does not dictate student placement; it identifies the structural possibilities that later phases will refine. Families will be given advance notice, and transitions will be designed to minimize academic disruption. Feedback on walkability, traffic patterns, special‑population needs, and cohesion will inform boundary design so final recommendations are responsive to local priorities.
5) How will the district address traffic, transportation, travel time, safety, and truancy implications if students are moved farther from home?
Transportation planning occurs after building and boundary decisions because route efficiency depends on which facilities remain open and where attendance zones fall. By consolidating under‑enrolled schools and aligning boundaries with where students live, the district aims to create a more coherent and efficient routing system, which can reduce overall travel time for many students compared with today’s fragmented routes.
The district also recognizes that some families may face longer commutes depending on geography and boundary outcomes. For that reason, feedback about traffic flow, neighborhood cut‑through patterns, walkability barriers, and unsafe corridors is critical.
As transportation plans are developed, the district will evaluate supervision needs for younger riders, potential adjustments to bell times, and mitigation strategies at key congestion points. Because the plan is phased over several years, transportation adjustments will be sequenced to ensure families have time to prepare, with a commitment to student safety, reliable access to after‑school programs, and a more sustainable network.
6) How will teacher retention, staffing stability, and job security be protected during a multi‑year transition?
The SAP process is designed to strengthen schools while reducing the number of underutilized buildings - not to reduce educator positions. Note that when the district operates fewer facilities, cost savings come primarily from administrative and non‑instructional overhead, not from classroom teachers. These reductions occur gradually through natural attrition, allowing instructional staffing levels to remain stable.
Regarding specialized roles - CTAE, Fine Arts, Special Education, and support staff - larger, properly enrolled schools will actually offer stronger programming and more stable staffing environments, since balanced capacity allows schools to fully utilize positions funded by state and federal formulas.
Again, the district’s intent is reassignment over layoffs. Phasing over six to eight years provides time for natural attrition and planned transitions. Communication with employees and principals will be continuous, with an emphasis on retaining high‑performing educators and ensuring receiving schools are fully staffed as they expand or convert.
7) What will happen to closed school buildings—will they be sold, repurposed, maintained, secured, or left vacant, and what is the cost of each option?
A dedicated Facility Reuse Plan governs what happens after final Board decisions. Options include repurposing buildings for district administrative or support functions, creating or expanding early childhood centers, partnering with other public agencies for community‑serving uses, or land‑banking sites for future educational needs.
The intent is to avoid long‑term vacancy or blight and to manage costs responsibly. Where buildings are not needed for near‑term instruction, land‑banking (including demolition and site stabilization) is considered to reduce ongoing liability and keep the site available for a future school if demographics change.
Reuse decisions will be made case‑by‑case, balancing neighborhood context, facility condition, cost to retrofit, and long‑term educational value. The district is not pursuing data centers as a reuse strategy.
8) Will consolidation increase class sizes and harm instructional quality?
The objective is to operate schools at the lower end of state class‑size ranges by aligning enrollment with capacity and by fully staffing programs through state and federal formulas.
When enrollment is spread across too many small or under‑enrolled facilities, districts must subsidize basic staffing, which can limit program breadth. Consolidation allows resources to be concentrated so students gain access to multiple course sections, arts, and supports that are difficult to sustain in very small schools.
9) How are grade‑band changes (e.g., PK‑3/4‑5, K‑8, 6‑12) being evaluated for developmental, social‑emotional, and safety impacts?
Multiple grade‑band options are under consideration, each with distinct benefits and trade‑offs (transitions, extracurriculars, staffing certifications, transportation tiers, and space). Any configuration that places a wider age span on one campus would include physical separation, schedule management, and supervision tailored to developmental needs.
No single grade configuration will be right for every cluster. Feasibility depends on building locations, sizes, adjacency, and the ability to provide age‑appropriate environments. The intent is to pair grade‑band choices with facility strengths and local geography so that safety and program quality are protected.
Community feedback will determine which options advance in the next iteration.
10) How will the district rebuild trust and ensure meaningful engagement—including opportunities for live public comment?
The commitment is to plan in public: release concepts early, collect feedback through multiple channels, and publish updates that show how input changes the next draft. The initial scenario is intentionally high‑level so communities can surface local realities and share feedback.
As the process moves into Boundaries and Programs, additional formats will be added—cluster‑focused sessions, student voice opportunities, and targeted outreach for directly impacted neighborhoods. The goal is to pair districtwide consistency with local detail, and to provide clear timelines so stakeholders can prepare and respond.
11) Timeline and notice—how will the six‑to‑eight‑year implementation be managed to avoid instability?
Phasing is central to minimizing disruption. Construction, additions, and conversions will be sequenced before student moves whenever feasible, followed by boundary adjustments that balance enrollment and protect program delivery.
Families and staff will receive advance notice for each step. The longer runway allows hiring, scheduling, transportation routing, and program transitions to be aligned with facility readiness, reducing mid‑year shifts.
12) Why weren’t boundaries and programs discussed alongside buildings?
Our first responsibility is to ensure that every student has a safe, supportive, and appropriately sized learning environment. Buildings define those essential conditions—they determine how many students a school can serve, where learning spaces are located, and what shape those spaces are in. Without that foundation, any discussion about boundaries or programs risks being built on shifting ground.
Once we understand the true capacity and condition of our facilities, we can more thoughtfully align attendance boundaries so students are connected to schools that can genuinely support them. After that, we determine program placement, making sure specialized services and opportunities are located where students have the space and resources to thrive.
Separating these phases isn’t about treating them as unrelated. It’s about ensuring that the decisions affecting students’ day‑to‑day experiences—who they learn alongside, what programs they can access, and how crowded their classrooms feel—are grounded in real, stable information. This approach helps us make choices that are not only efficient, but compassionate and student‑centered.
13) What safeguards prevent enrollment or funding loss if families leave DCSD?
The overarching strategy is to strengthen quality and stability by aligning students to fewer, better‑resourced schools—so families experience broader offerings in modernized facilities rather than thinly spread resources. This approach is designed to retain students by improving day‑to‑day experience.
Maintaining cohort integrity where feasible, sequencing moves after additions, and addressing walkability and transportation concerns during boundary design are all intended to reduce uncertainty that can drive families away.
14) Why are some schools in the scenario after receiving recent or ongoing ESPLOST‑funded work?
Some facility projects were authorized in prior ESPLOST cycles and are already under contract. Those commitments continue unless the Board changes scope. The role of the scenario is to prevent future dollars from flowing to buildings that would remain under‑utilized or have poor long‑term return on investment.
Long‑term alignment is the goal: invest where facilities will serve students efficiently for decades, and avoid recurring capital outlay on buildings that no longer fit the distribution of students.
15) What happens to specialty programs (DLI, magnet/theme, CTAE, Special Education) in the new layouts?
Program placement is addressed after buildings so that access can be aligned to capacity and geography. Required student support (e.g., Special Education services) continue regardless of facility changes, with placements handled administratively as part of implementation planning.
The intent is to use the boundary and facility outcomes to improve program equity—expanding access and aligning specialized facilities and staffing where they can be sustained.
16) How will the plan address root causes of enrollment decline (program breadth, family confidence, housing patterns, competition)?
Right‑sizing is a foundation, not the finish line. Aligning students to modern, properly enrolled schools enables broader course offerings, stronger arts and CTAE, and fully staffed student supports that help retain families through upper grades.
The next phases—boundaries and programs—will address access and placement so that quality is felt in every region. The district also recognizes external influences (housing mix, aging‑in‑place, private/charter competition) and is building a system resilient to those shifts.
17) What financial outcomes are expected—what is the target for cost avoidance and reinvestment?
Operating fewer buildings reduces administrative overhead, utilities, and long‑term maintenance liabilities while keeping teacher counts relatively stable. Savings can then be redirected to instruction and student support.
System modeling targets portfolio‑wide utilization in the upper‑80s percent range by 2030, eliminating excess seats and aligning capacity to projected enrollment. This structural efficiency is what enables cost avoidance to accumulate and be reinvested.
18) How will student safety be ensured—in hallways, on buses, and in any combined‑age campuses?
SAP is a full reimagining of the district, and all grade-band configurations are being explored, including K - 8 and 6 - 12 models. The district understands concerns about wider grade bands, and any grade configuration considered in later rounds will prioritize student safety, age separation, and appropriate learning environments {separate wings / entries). Facilities can be designed to keep different age groups fully separated even when located on the same campus - for example, the design approach used for the new Sequoyah Middle and High School.
Transportation safety will be addressed when routing is built from the final boundary maps—evaluating stop locations, lighting, supervision needs for younger riders, and after‑school access so that clubs and athletics remain viable for students traveling longer distances.
19) Will alternatives be considered—rebuilds on existing sites, joint/adjacent campuses, K‑8 models, or relocating administrative functions into school buildings?
Yes. The scenario explicitly explores K‑8 and 6‑12 options, shared‑site patterns, and cascading use to keep the best buildings while reducing new‑build pressure. Where it improves long‑term value, rebuilding on an existing site may be considered instead of maintaining multiple small facilities.
The reuse plan includes administrative relocation where appropriate. Final selections will weigh cost, feasibility, program quality, and community input.
At this time, we are would love to hear alternatives that help us with the 5 challenges we are facing.
20) How will Special Education and medically fragile students be protected during longer commutes and transitions?
Required services continue regardless of facility changes. Placements for Special Education and medically fragile students will be planned as part of implementation, including transportation supports and schedule accommodations aligned to individual needs.
Boundary and routing design will consider travel time and access so that support services remain timely and students are not disadvantaged by location. We will also woek collaborativly with the student and wrap around services teams to ensure effective transitions plans.
21) Consultant support (HPM): How was the firm selected, what is the scope, how are they paid, and which parts of their approach are standardized versus tailored for the district?
HPM was selected through a competitive Request for Proposals (RFP) issued in late 2024, covering both Capital Improvement Program Management and Long‑Range Facility Planning. Their contract was reviewed publicly and approved by the Board of Education in February 2025. Their planning services are billed as a flat fee, based on the personnel and resources needed to complete the work.
HPM began its engagement in April 2025, starting with facility assessments and data collection. Because long‑range facility planning intersects directly with student assignment, HPM began coordinating with the district’s SAP team in May 2025. While HPM brings national experience, they do not use a standardized, one‑size‑fits‑all model; their work is customized to each district’s unique needs. In DeKalb, consolidation discussions are shaped primarily by the SAP process, which began in Fall 2024 - months before HPM joined the work.
At this time, the community does not participate in contractor selection, but all contracts - including HPM’s - require formal Board approval in public meetings. Additionally, the SAP committee is currently filled and is not adding new members since the process has been underway for 2 years. Anyone can follow all SAP information on the DCSD website and all feedback is welcomed.
The SAP committee is advisory, not decision‑making. Nothing in the SAP process is pre‑determined. SAP develops scenarios, refines them with community input, and ultimately produces recommendations. The Board has tasked SAP with this work, but the scenarios themselves are not Board‑endorsed plans. Once SAP presents its final recommendations, the Board of Education will decide what changes - if any - to adopt regarding buildings, boundaries, and programs.
Scenario 2 FAQs
Thank you to the DeKalb County community for your thoughtful and extensive participation in the Student Assignment Project (SAP). This work represents a complex, multiyear effort that brings together data analysis, facility planning, and meaningful community engagement on an issue that affects every region of the district.
Over the past several weeks, we received hundreds of questions, comments, and concerns from families, staff, students, and community members. The level of engagement reflects the deep commitment our community has to its schools, neighborhoods, and the longterm wellbeing of all students.
This FAQ synthesizes the major themes that emerged across those responses and provides clear, comprehensive explanations to the most commonly raised questions. It is not intended to replace the full set of community feedback. In the spirit of transparency, the complete, unedited list of submitted questions and comments will also be posted publicly so that the community can see the full range of perspectives that informed this summary.
| Consolidated Question | Standardized SAP Team Answer |
|---|---|
| When will attendance boundaries and feeder patterns be reviewed or changed? | Attendance boundaries will be reviewed in a comprehensive redistricting process beginning in Fall 2026, informed by final facility decisions including new schools, closures, and expansions. |
| What happens to feeder patterns during construction or phasing? | Feeder patterns will be reviewed during the boundary process. |
| How will sibling placement be handled? | Siblings will be placed based on policy JBCC. We wil try our best to keep families in the same cluster. |
| How will information be communicated to non‑parent taxpayers? | SAP materials are publicly available to all community members, including non-parents. |
| How were student enrollment projections developed? | Enrollment projections are based on historic grade progression rates, birth-to-enrollment data, and housing trends using a cohort-survival model. COVID-era anomalies have largely been removed. These projections are updated periodically and are intended for long-term facilities planning, not annual staffing. |
| Why do district enrollment projections differ from school-level projections shared with principals? | Districtwide forecasts serve long-term planning needs, while principal forecasts are short-term and more granular for staffing purposes. |
| How often will enrollment projections be updated? | Forecasts are updated annually, but reviewed periodically as new enrollment and development data become available. |
| How does SAP impact equity across North and South DeKalb? | SAP seeks to allocate resources more equitably by reducing excess capacity and supporting access to programs and educator resources across the district. |
| How will historic or community‑significant schools be treated? | Community identity and historical significance are deeply valued and thoughtfully considered as part of our facilities planning process. We recognize that balancing data-driven needs with the preservation of history can be challenging, and we approach these decisions with care, respect, and a commitment to honoring both community legacy and future needs. |
| Can closed schools be repurposed for community use? | Yes, closed facilities may be thoughtfully repurposed to continue serving community or educational needs. We are working closely with city municipalities and local partners to explore options that are both practical and meaningful, with the goal of ensuring these spaces remain assets to the community. |
| How will environmental impacts (trees, air quality) be considered? | Environmental factors are carefully considered during both the design and site evaluation phases. We will work closely with the city to ensure compliance with all ordinances and regulations, maintaining the highest standards of environmental safety. |
| What happens to closed school buildings and how will blight be prevented? | Closed school buildings will not be abandoned. Each site will undergo a facility disposition process that may include program relocation, early learning centers, partnerships, or community use. |
| What does the district mean by cost avoidance, and how does consolidation affect finances? | Cost avoidance refers to preventing future operational and maintenance costs associated with operating too many underutilized buildings. The goal is not immediate savings, but reallocating resources toward instruction and student programs. |
| How does enrollment size affect state funding and staffing allocations? | Larger schools earn more state-funded positions, while smaller schools often require local subsidies. Aligning enrollment with sustainable school size improves education resource allocation. |
| What criteria determine which schools receive capital investments? | Capital investments consider condition, adequacy, enrollment, and long-term district needs. |
| How are SPLOST funds factored into SAP decisions? | SPLOST funds support capital projects but must be aligned with sustainable facilities planning. SAP will support how to prioritize some of these funds. |
| What happens if projected funding does not materialize? | If funding does not materialize, implementation timelines or scopes may be adjusted. |
| Will property taxes or millage rates be affected by SAP? | SAP does not directly propose changes to the millage rate. |
| Why not pause SAP until a permanent superintendent is hired? | SAP continues under Board oversight regardless of superintendent status. |
| Who has the final authority to approve SAP outcomes? | Final authority rests with the Board of Education. |
| What board policies govern school closures? | State law and DCSD Board policy AD govern school closures. |
| How is school capacity defined and how is utilization calculated? | Capacity is calculated using the district’s standard formula based on the number of instructional spaces and average room usage. Utilization is enrollment divided by capacity. |
| What is a building adequacy score and how is it used in decision-making? | Building adequacy scores evaluate whether a facility supports modern educational requirements. Scores below 80 percent are considered low adequacy. Adequacy is one of several factors used and is not considered in isolation. |
| Why were student achievement and school performance not used as criteria in this phase of SAP? | This phase of SAP focuses on facilities, capacity, and long-term sustainability—factors the district can directly control. Student achievement metrics are dynamic and will be addressed in later programmatic phases rather than used as a primary driver for facilities decisions. |
| If the district does nothing, what are the long-term consequences? | If no action is taken, enrollment declines will continue while operating costs increase, spreading resources too thin across buildings and limiting the district’s ability to fund programs effectively. |
| Why does the plan focus on facilities before programs and boundaries? | SAP proceeds in the order of buildings, boundaries, and then programs to ensure long-term stability. Facilities decisions inform boundaries, which in turn inform program planning. |
| What role does community feedback play and can scenarios still change? | No final decisions have been made. SAP is iterative and incorporates community feedback across multiple rounds before recommendations are presented to the Board of Education. |
| What is the timeline for implementation of SAP recommendations? | Implementation is phased over several years, with actions categorized as short (2-5 years), medium (5-7 years), or long (over 7 years) term depending on complexity, funding, and readiness. |
| How does SAP align with long-term district strategic goals? | SAP the strategic priorities: Student Academic Success with Equity and Access; School, Family, and Community Engagement; and Organizational Excellence. |
| Why are different strategies proposed for different clusters? | Different areas are experiencing unique enrollment trends and facility conditions, which call for thoughtful, tailored approaches. These strategies may include adjustments to grade configurations, prioritizing key data metrics, and honoring the historical significance of each community. |
| How does SAP address community trust and transparency concerns? | The district is committed to transparency through public meetings, accessible materials, and ongoing community engagement. We have also taken care to document how community input has shaped decisions, ensuring the process remains open, responsive, and accountable. |
| What opportunities exist for continued public engagement? | Additional engagement opportunities will occur in all future SAP rounds. |
| Can SAP recommendations be reversed or revised later? | SAP recommendations can evolve as data and community input change prior to Board approval. |
| How many years will SAP take to fully implement? | Implementation will take place over multiple years, depending on the scope and complexity of each project. Following board approval, timelines may range from approximately 3 to 7 years, allowing for thoughtful planning, community engagement, and careful execution at each stage. |
| Which actions are considered short-term versus long-term? | Short-term actions require minimal capital work; long-term actions require major investment. |
| How will success of SAP be measured over time? | Success will be measured by ensuring that all students have equitable access to high-quality school facilities and the educational resources they need to thrive. |
| How does SAP align with county or city planning efforts? | The district collaborates with local governments and planning agencies when appropriate. We are also working with Decide DeKalb and county commissioners to better understand strategic priorities and ensure alignment with broader community goals. |
| What assurances exist that student needs remain the priority? | The guiding priority of SAP is to improve long-term learning environments for students. |
| What role does HPM play in SAP? | HPM provides facilities planning and program management support. |
| How was HPM selected for this work? | HPM was selected through a competitive RFP process approved by the Board. |
| Are there conflicts of interest involving consultants? | HPM is contractually prohibited from bidding on construction projects arising from SAP. |
| How will magnet, IB, DLI, and other special programs be affected? | Programs such as IB, DLI, magnet, and special education will remain supported. Program placement and transitions will be reviewed in later SAP phases, with structured transition plans where needed. |
| Could programmatic investments prevent the need for school closures? | Program investments alone cannot address structural overcapacity and underutilization issues without facilities adjustments. |
| How will special education services be delivered after consolidation? | Special education services will continue to be provided in full compliance with state and federal requirements. We are also reviewing the placement of programs to ensure they are appropriately located as close as possible to students’ homes, supporting access, continuity, and stability of services. |
| How will gifted programs be affected? | Gifted programs are funded and staffed based on enrollment and will continue. |
| Will IB and DLI programs move or expand? | IB and DLI programs will be reviewed in future phases of the School Attendance Planning (SAP) process. At this time, no expansion of programs is being recommended. |
| How will academic continuity be ensured for students? | We will make every effort to keep student cohorts together whenever possible, recognizing the importance of continuity and stability. However, due to the complexity of enrollment and planning factors, we cannot guarantee this in every case. We are also working to strengthen program articulation across all programs in DCSD to support smoother transitions and greater consistency for students. |
| Will extracurricular activities be affected? | Extracurricular activities are expected to continue at receiving schools. |
| What criteria determine whether a school can be expanded instead of closed? | Expansion feasibility depends on site size, topography, cost, circulation, and proximity to other schools. Not all sites can realistically support expansion. |
| How were specific schools selected for closure or consolidation? | Schools were evaluated using multiple factors including enrollment, capacity, adequacy, site constraints, and geographic context. |
| Why are some over-capacity schools still proposed for closure? | In some cases, small over-capacity schools are still inefficient to expand or sustain compared to consolidating into nearby facilities. |
| Why is the district proposing fewer, larger schools instead of maintaining smaller schools? | Smaller schools are more difficult to staff and resource efficiently because they require similar administrative and support positions as larger schools but receive less state funding. Larger schools do not mean larger class sizes and allow resources to scale with enrollment. |
| Will class sizes increase in larger schools? | Class size limits are governed by Board policy and remain the same regardless of school size. |
| What is the minimum enrollment needed for a school to be considered sustainable? | Elementary schools with fewer than four sections per grade often require local subsidies and are less financially sustainable. |
| What happens to teachers and staff when a school is closed or consolidated? | Staffing changes are primarily managed through reassignment and natural attrition rather than layoffs. This process will be implemented over several years, allowing the district sufficient time to thoughtfully and strategically redistribute educators. |
| How does school size affect staffing allocations? | Staffing allocations increase with enrollment, allowing larger schools to support more programs and staff through state funding formulas. |
| How will staff be supported emotionally during transitions? | Staff will be supported through communication, reassignment processes, and transition planning through the HR division. |
| How will teacher retention be ensured at impacted schools? | Retention is supported by stable placements and phased transitions. |
| How will student safety be addressed in larger or combined schools (e.g., 6–12)? | Any combined or larger school configurations would prioritize student safety through facility design, scheduling strategies, and age-appropriate separation such as dedicated wings or learning communities. |
| How will student well-being and mental health be supported during transitions? | Student well-being and mental health supports will be considered during transitions, including counseling and school-based supports where appropriate. |
| How will traffic and transportation impacts be addressed? | Transportation planning is part of SAP implementation. Traffic studies and routing analyses will occur as boundaries and projects are finalized to ensure safe and efficient transportation. |
| How will walk zones and neighborhood access be affected? | Walk zones may change based on boundary adjustments. |
| Will additional traffic studies be conducted? | Traffic studies are expected during design and implementation phases. |
| How will bus driver shortages be addressed? | Reducing the number of operational schools can reduce route demand and address driver shortages. |
| Can you provide some clarification around the heatmaps? | The student density in the heatmaps is based on current 2025-26 student enrollment, it is not based on the forecasted data. Low density areas are in blue, high density areas are in red. |